powertrax no slip vs 33x10.5x15

[det107]

Locker unless you're some lame mall crawler.

Hey Buddy, those speed bumps can be high-

 

[pillen140]

33's. I beat a bunch of locked jeeps and trucks with 33x10.50 and open axles when I had them on my truck.

 

[pillen140]

Um, I like the mall crawler comment from the guy with the avatar that looks like a mall parking lot in the background, lol.

 

[Will]

Thats what i though, 33's would give me better clearance, i guess the powertrax no slip wil have to wait until christmas or next summer hahaha

Clearance is great. You get an inch more with 33s. Then you get stuck. With a locker, you keep going. That's why those shields are on the bottom of the truck. You can't go wheeling with open axles. Even with 33s you have to hit everything wide open because you know you are going to spin a tire and lose power. Momentum means your damage will be worse than if you had traction and could just power over it slowly. In the snow the locker can easily push through that extra inch of clearance the 33s would give. It's a no brainer--get the 33s if you aren't really wheeling. If you are using it as a 4x4, get the locker. Nothing sucks worse than being stuck with a planted tire. Open axles are pathetic. I'd rather have the 205-75/15s my truck came stock with and lockers than 33s. There will be sparks and lots of grinding noises, but I'll pound the damn thing through and not be sitting there looking stupid with a big meaty 33 hanging in the air spinning.

I'm not saying go with the locker. I'm saying that you brought up the choice and if you are really wheeling it the locker is by far the best choice. My truck has 31s on it, incidentally. I have run 35" Ground Hawgs with it as well. I also wheeled it with the little stock tires and a locker. The locker is by far the next best step to improve it offroad.

 

[6.2]

He doesn't have open diffs. Read people! He has a LS.

An sometimes an inch extra is all you need.

I say tires, simply because you'll eventually NEED new tires, and he's got the cash now so why not.

 

[Will]

LS sucks too. It's no different than an open axle when you lift a tire. Especially when it's old and worn out.

He's going to buy tires because you can see them. That's the bottom line. I respect that decision.

 

[pillen140]

My opinion differs greatly, of course better traction is great, lockers are great. I've been stuck way worse, and many times due to not enough ground clearance. Very rarely do I ever have a tire hanging in the air be the reason for being stuck. When I do have a tire hanging, its usually on pretty solid dirt or rocks where my other 3 tires are gripping fine, and the opposite axle will pull me along fine. I've been high centered more than anything, or have had axle clearance issues way more times than I have had an issue with actual traction, or hanging a tire. Hell, even with an open diff, its not like one one wheel is spinning 100% of the time and the other just freewheeling(unless one is in the air like you said, or has absolutly zero traction). When I have been stuck in mud or even high centered 90% of the time both wheels are getting SOME traction, thus both spinning.

 

[pillen140]

He doesn't have open diffs. Read people! He has a LS.

An sometimes an inch extra is all you need.

I say tires, simply because you'll eventually NEED new tires, and he's got the cash now so why not.

If you're talking to me, I didn't say he had open diffs, I was refering to myself and having 33x10.50 in the past

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I will say my truck got around better in snow with 235/75-MT's than 31x10.5-15's MT's with open axles. They are a different tire (Dunlop Mud Rover to Firestone Destination) but it was a night and day difference.

I also changed the engine during that same period and I wouldn't rule out the difference in powerband between a 2.8 and a 5.0 playing a role but it seemed like if I looked at the gas pedal I had a spinning tire in 2wd. 4wd as always cured it. I never really go anywhere where lifting a tire is a problem, just running support opening gates and helping move bale rings when we feed hay in the winter.

With the stupid snowplow front axle, I do think the extra clearance will be nice though... last year was pretty weak as far as snow went so I didn't get a test on that. I think I had one storm that went up to the rims.

Two years ago I buried it, and I will firmly blame the front axle for getting me stuck. Foot of fluff on a foot of fluff with a crust between. The top foot drug me down until I spun through the crust and then we sat on the frame.

 

[The Mud Addict]

Get the locker.
When I first got my 'lil '85 B2 on 31's, I welded my rear axle.
The next weekend was following full-sizes on 38's.
Was dragging frame a lot, but was pulling the full-sizes before the day was over.

 

[4.0B2]

Why the no slip powertrax? Why not the Aussie?

 

[feellnfroggy]

3.55 still isn't anywhere near ideal for 33s. I'd go 4.56.

I never said it was ideal. I said I was what I had to work with and I psted the sucky gas mileage. The good .news is my speedo is dead on without the 10% difference that the manufacturer creates. But its still a dog.

 

[Hahnsb2]

Those that are saying 33's likely have never wheeled with a locker. The difference between the 31s and 33s is meh, the difference between open/LS to locked is holy shit.

 

[pillen140]

... not true at all. We are talking about a long wheelbase ranger correct? Not a short wheelbase bII? 33 vs 31s are a hell of a difference for something that is as long as a ranger. Some of you guys are making it sound like I think lockers don't help or anything, or they aren't good. Of course lockers are amazing, but in his situation, I think 33s would be a bigger benefit. 31s vs 33s on a bii or wrangler are not that big of a difference. On a ranger, it makes a pretty big difference. Not to mention if he drives it on the road everyday. When I sold my lockright to fund my new axle and gears it wasn't exactly fun to drive for the short time I had it on the road (at least with a manual trans). and if 1" isn't that much, there is only a 2" difference between 31s and 35s..... try taking something with 31s where something with 35s will go. Trust me, an inch makes a difference

 

[6.2]

... not true at all. We are talking about a long wheelbase ranger correct? Not a short wheelbase bII? 33 vs 31s are a hell of a difference for something that is as long as a ranger. Some of you guys are making it sound like I think lockers don't help or anything, or they aren't good. Of course lockers are amazing, but in his situation, I think 33s would be a bigger benefit. 31s vs 33s on a bii or wrangler are not that big of a difference. On a ranger, it makes a pretty big difference. Not to mention if he drives it on the road everyday. When I sold my lockright to fund my new axle and gears it wasn't exactly fun to drive for the short time I had it on the road (at least with a manual trans). and if 1" isn't that much, there is only a 2" difference between 31s and 35s..... try taking something with 31s where something with 35s will go. Trust me, an inch makes a difference

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