TheRangerStation.com  SM

Serving Ranger, Bronco II, Explorer & Mazda B-Series Owners Since 1999  


Home Resources Tech Library Magazine Video Gallery Truck Gallery Shirts & Decals Parts


Go Back   The Ranger Station Forums > Engine & Transmission Forums > Forced Induction

Forced Induction This forum is for ALL Turbo and Supercharger topics. This includes the 2.3L Turbo topics.

Post New Thread Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-01-2008, 04:10 PM   #16
Evil Ranger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007

Year: 99 & 2000
Model: Mustangs
Engine: 4.2 & 4.6

Posts: 30
Rep Power: 5
Evil Ranger is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

In the Tune. He's using Sniper software. I use SCT PRP.
Evil Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 04:45 PM   #17
Dave R
RBV Technical Advisor
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In the snow belt

Year: 1953
Make: Kaiser
Model: Chief

Posts: 685
Rep Power: 7
Dave R is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottledgt View Post
explain how you are adjusting the mass air meter....i cant say ive ever herd of that, unless youre talking about clocking it
Technically your not adjusting the mass air meter, rather your adjusting what the computer does with the information that the mass air meter is reporting to it.
Dave R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 06:43 PM   #18
bottledgt
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007

Year: 94
Make: ford
Model: ranger

Posts: 616
Rep Power: 0
bottledgt is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Default

well i knew all that. i just thought the way it was wrote something else was going on i hadnt ever heard of. SCT is good shit
bottledgt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 08:31 PM   #19
Evil Ranger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007

Year: 99 & 2000
Model: Mustangs
Engine: 4.2 & 4.6

Posts: 30
Rep Power: 5
Evil Ranger is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave R View Post
Technically your not adjusting the mass air meter, rather your adjusting what the computer does with the information that the mass air meter is reporting to it.
Evil Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2008, 10:27 PM   #20
bottledgt
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007

Year: 94
Make: ford
Model: ranger

Posts: 616
Rep Power: 0
bottledgt is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Default

whats all involved with this sniper system? whats the price on it? i need to get something for the 331
bottledgt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2008, 06:12 PM   #21
D94R
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Eagle Mountain UT


Posts: 29
Rep Power: 5
D94R is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

I'm rather impressed with this. Was never a fan of a remote turbo setup if one could be made to fit underhood, but I like what you have done. Good work!
__________________
-Formerly Danger94Ranger
D94R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008, 01:06 AM   #22
V8RangerBoy
Member
 
V8RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007

Year: 1994
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger

Posts: 176
Rep Power: 5
V8RangerBoy is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Sorry - been a busy week getting the rest of the stuff finished up in it and whatnot.

The Sniper system is pretty straightforward. This makes the tuning process sound really tacky and like it isn't going to get what you want, but in all reality it's just a series of dropdown menu's to input what you have in your setup. Compression ratio, aspiration, displacement, injectors, pump size, MAF brand, size, and calibration, etc. It adjusts everything in the computer for what you have. The guys at Sniper have a really really well put together setup, and even for a person with little computer/car knowledge, it would still be easy to figure out. The basic Special Forces software does NOT allow you fine-tune the super-specific points of the tune, like the MAF curve, etc. The more advanced Sniper software covers this. The only fine-tuning options in Special Forces allow for timing and AFR ratio adjustments. However, there are numerous authorized people within the Sniper 'network' that will customize your tune for you for a small fee, or many just for donation. The starter Special Forces software was about $350 from RPMOutlet.com, with free overnight shipping for the holidays!

The tranny is an M5OD. The transfer case is, well, I quite seriously don't know. My dad snagged it at the same time he got the tranny. Says Borg-Warner on it. I wanted the manual tranny and manual t-case instead of the Explorer's auto tranny/auto TC setup. I like to KNOW it's engaged haha and I just like driving a manual.

As for the exhaust, I cut the mufflers clear out. It's straight piped, and isn't obnoxious at all. Has a good tone under accel, not extremely loud, but good and throaty. Pops every now and then under decel, but nothing crazy. Amazingly quiet under cruise though - everyone comments on how quiet it is for being straight piped. Came out really good.

For calibrating the MAF as blow-through, well, I put in "Blow-through" for the selection in the Sniper software! It adjusts the computer for the appropriate changes, and input the new transfer function for the Lightning MAF.
__________________
'94 Chassis, 7" lift, 33 BFG MT's, full Clarion/Kicker/Pioneer stereo, racing seats, Bushwhacker flares, Westin cab steps, ProComp prerunner bar, 2x KC Daylighters... much more.
5.0L EFI Explorer swap w/ M5OD 5-speed
T04E .57 trim turbo @ 6psi, GReddy RS Blow-off Valve, 39lb Cobra injectors, 80mm Lightning MAF, TiAL 38mm Wastegate, K&N Filter, etc...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2479061 Truck pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfe62Zq9FQ Truck video

Last edited by V8RangerBoy; 02-11-2008 at 01:00 PM.
V8RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008, 01:11 AM   #23
V8RangerBoy
Member
 
V8RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007

Year: 1994
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger

Posts: 176
Rep Power: 5
V8RangerBoy is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottledgt View Post
you mind posting a full motor pic? i wanna see what youve got on the intake to keep out of the heater box. ive got mine hacked all to hell and back for the throttle body and tube
Here's the best couple shots I could find. The intake/charge tubes come out RIGHT ahead of the heater core, basically touching the thing. Both pics were taken as I was rigging up the tube structure with bailing wire, but the finished product looks real similar.



__________________
'94 Chassis, 7" lift, 33 BFG MT's, full Clarion/Kicker/Pioneer stereo, racing seats, Bushwhacker flares, Westin cab steps, ProComp prerunner bar, 2x KC Daylighters... much more.
5.0L EFI Explorer swap w/ M5OD 5-speed
T04E .57 trim turbo @ 6psi, GReddy RS Blow-off Valve, 39lb Cobra injectors, 80mm Lightning MAF, TiAL 38mm Wastegate, K&N Filter, etc...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2479061 Truck pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfe62Zq9FQ Truck video
V8RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008, 04:11 AM   #24
bottledgt
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007

Year: 94
Make: ford
Model: ranger

Posts: 616
Rep Power: 0
bottledgt is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Default

ahh, i take it theres an elbow im missing then. i may change that later if i can find whatever im missing off that intake. and for 350 , i think ill just get an SCT chip tuned whenever i get an 02 harness thats right and a computer that isnt fried
bottledgt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008, 04:24 AM   #25
Black Widow '90
Junior Member
 
Black Widow '90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Michigan

Year: 1990
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger

Posts: 75
Rep Power: 5
Black Widow '90 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

that looks AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________
BLACK WIDOW '90 3" B/L sitting on 31's BFG's and has alot of custom SH*T done to it
Black Widow '90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2008, 09:27 PM   #26
Robin Hood
Member
 
Robin Hood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007

Year: 2003
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger Edge
Engine: 3.0L V6
Class: 2WD on/off road
Used For: DD.

Posts: 293
Rep Power: 5
Robin Hood is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

can you get some videos of a run down the street or something? i'm curious. how much power you getting from this?
__________________
77 GMC Sierra K25 400CI SBC Turbo400 NP203
03 Ranger Edge 3.0L
63 Nova SS Convertible 350 crate
06 Honda Civic 1.8L
04 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2.5L
Robin Hood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2008, 02:36 AM   #27
V8RangerBoy
Member
 
V8RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007

Year: 1994
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger

Posts: 176
Rep Power: 5
V8RangerBoy is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

If I honestly knew anyone with a video camera I'd do a video! But, I have a couple video's of a turbo'd 5.0 Explorer that sounds similar.

behind the truck during takeoff
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...e200af6ea3.htm

0-60 pull
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...e200ad328b.htm

parked
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...b001452a71.htm

He's running a 3" single exhaust whereas mine is 2 1/4" headers to 3" then back down to 2 1/4" duals. He also still has all four cats in. Mine whistles alot more under throttle, and has quite a bit deeper tone. 0-60 time is pretty similar, even with the 33's on my truck.

Power... really wish I knew of a place close to me with a dyno. I have a magazine article with a stock-block build of a 5.0 Fox-body 'stang running 10psi that went from 200hp to like 445, and 240tq up to 490 or 500. I figure at 6psi and with the bigger tires and whatnot I'm probably around 340hp, 360tq or so. Pulls really really hard, I beat a 350Z without too much effort and a turbo'd Eclipse up until about 70mph.
__________________
'94 Chassis, 7" lift, 33 BFG MT's, full Clarion/Kicker/Pioneer stereo, racing seats, Bushwhacker flares, Westin cab steps, ProComp prerunner bar, 2x KC Daylighters... much more.
5.0L EFI Explorer swap w/ M5OD 5-speed
T04E .57 trim turbo @ 6psi, GReddy RS Blow-off Valve, 39lb Cobra injectors, 80mm Lightning MAF, TiAL 38mm Wastegate, K&N Filter, etc...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2479061 Truck pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfe62Zq9FQ Truck video

Last edited by V8RangerBoy; 02-11-2008 at 01:01 PM.
V8RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2008, 02:41 AM   #28
V8RangerBoy
Member
 
V8RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007

Year: 1994
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger

Posts: 176
Rep Power: 5
V8RangerBoy is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottledgt View Post
ahh, i take it theres an elbow im missing then. i may change that later if i can find whatever im missing off that intake. and for 350 , i think ill just get an SCT chip tuned whenever i get an 02 harness thats right and a computer that isnt fried
The charge side of the turbo sit's in the inside of the C-shaped nook of the frame. The tube itself follows the frame line up until about where the headers snake past the frame, then it's a 45 deg bend up and out towards the pass. side, then another 45 deg bend to point it up towards the engine bay, then another 45 deg bend at the heater core to point it up towards the headlight, then 2x 90's to turn it into the manifold.

I definitely would have given SCT a shot since they have really nothing but good rep, but since I couldn't find anyone really locally that could do tunes for me, I was really skeptical of doing the whole e-mail scenario or whatever. I wanted to be able to either do it myself or do it face-to-face with someone.
__________________
'94 Chassis, 7" lift, 33 BFG MT's, full Clarion/Kicker/Pioneer stereo, racing seats, Bushwhacker flares, Westin cab steps, ProComp prerunner bar, 2x KC Daylighters... much more.
5.0L EFI Explorer swap w/ M5OD 5-speed
T04E .57 trim turbo @ 6psi, GReddy RS Blow-off Valve, 39lb Cobra injectors, 80mm Lightning MAF, TiAL 38mm Wastegate, K&N Filter, etc...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2479061 Truck pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfe62Zq9FQ Truck video
V8RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2008, 01:00 PM   #29
bottledgt
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007

Year: 94
Make: ford
Model: ranger

Posts: 616
Rep Power: 0
bottledgt is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Default

yeah the mail order crap is usually just that...crap
bottledgt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2008, 10:57 PM   #30
rocket5979
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Villa, IL

Year: 1993
Make: Ford
Model: Ranger Splash 4x4

Posts: 60
Rep Power: 5
rocket5979 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottledgt View Post
yeah the mail order crap is usually just that...crap


Remote custom tuning can be accomplished with good results, you just have to datalog your truck and send those logs to your tuner. If your tuner even thinks about trying to tune your vehicle, in person or remotely, without logging then go somewhere else. Still it is best to tune a FI combo in person because you can hear, feel, and see what the vehicle is doing and help diagnose any problems that may arise in some combinations.
rocket5979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2000 - 2009 The Ranger Station - James Oaks Enterprises LLC - All Rights Reserved
'The Ranger Station' and it's logo are Service Marks of The Ranger Station owned by James Oaks Enterprises LLC.

The Ranger Station is in no way affiliated with the Ford Motor Company

Legal Notice