welding auto hubs

85rx7_93ranger · Dec 22, 2009

so ive had big problems with my auto hubs and i just plain hate them!! so i thought up an idea and it seems work great! just wonderin if anyone has done it before?

i took apart the hub, welded the outer gear to the bottom side of the inner gear and slid it back into the hub, now the huub is always locked there are no moving parts and its solid. i already took it out for a test in the snow with 31" tires and it worked great! the only problem is that it is always locked therefore bad mpgs but i really dont care lol.

Capt Jay · Dec 22, 2009

It's going to bind when you corner on pavement.

85rx7_93ranger · Dec 22, 2009

ya i thought that but ive been trying it out on and off pavement with no problems...anyway shouldnt the open diff make up for that??

mn_smokeater · Dec 22, 2009

yeah that wont pan out to well man somehow murphys laws gunna kick in and getcha

85rx7_93ranger · Dec 22, 2009

lol but its the same thing as having manual hubs in the "locked" position...correct? or do the ranger manual hubs have slipage?

LittleHorse · Dec 22, 2009

i'm not seeing how this equates to binding if the diff is open...with a locker, sure, but open?

85rx7_93ranger · Dec 22, 2009

LittleHorse said:
i'm not seeing how this equates to binding if the diff is open...with a locker, sure, but open?

exactly

BRUTUS_T_HOG · Dec 22, 2009

i believe he's assuming you also have the transfer case locked into 4wd. it will bind on pavement in 4wd no matter what diff you have because there is a speed difference from front to rear. you'll have no problems in 2wd

bronchoII · Dec 22, 2009

it should be like a jeep or any other 4x4 that dont have hubs with the transfer case out of 4 wheel it should'nt bind

85rx7_93ranger · Dec 22, 2009

yea makes sense, and im guessing by looking inside the auto hubs that the clutches inside the cams will unlock and lock the hubs as the tire turns different speeds than the axle..is that correct? so with the hubs always locked the axles and tires will always be spinnign the same speed which would cause binding on pavement with the tcase in 4x4, i might just leave the truck like this i mean hell it eliminates all the shitty ford parts which could fail offroad and get me stuck

LittleHorse · Dec 22, 2009

i'm not totally up on auto hubs, but I think the only time they lock is when the axle has made a particular number of revolutions in the hub (put it in 4x4 and drive forward), and then they unlock when the hubs have made a particular number of backward revolutions around the axle (take it out of 4x4 and drive straight in reverse X number of feet).

it'd be just like a manual hub that was left in the "lock" position.

BRUTUS_T_HOG · Dec 23, 2009

it will be just like the "live" axle that is found in almost all new trucks. always locked in they don't even have hubs. you only shift the transfer case

LittleHorse · Dec 23, 2009

BRUTUS_T_HOG said:
it will be just like the "live" axle that is found in almost all new trucks. always locked in they don't even have hubs. you only shift the transfer case

why exactly did they start doing that anyway? Cheaper to manufacture I'm sure, but seems like the gas mileage would suffer.

88gt · Dec 23, 2009

i ran with my hubs locked for several days on pavement and off due to random black ice patches. the axel binding thing is with the tcase locked in and/or a locked diff. you'll have no problems except loss of some power and gas mileage

Nhaz · Dec 23, 2009

BRUTUS_T_HOG said:
it will be just like the "live" axle that is found in almost all new trucks. always locked in they don't even have hubs. you only shift the transfer case

the Live axle setups they have now have ferofluids which act like a third differential between the front and rear axles. . so don't run the 4x4 on dry clean pavement with the older style 4x4s.

Or thats my understanding anyways.

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