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View Poll Results: What do you think is better for desert racing?
2wd Ranger 140 65.12%
4WD Ranger 75 34.88%
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:23 PM   #21
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yeah considering the class 11 volkswagens and class 5 have 4x4 in the silt beds . dude come on... why dont all the big money class 7 trucks have 4x4 .cause they cant afford it? yeah right its not worth carrying around all that sh*t for using it once if that... plus you dont want more mechanical parts to fail on you . simplicity is also a big factor sometimes
Unwadd em!
I have fawking both 4 & 2WD, and have run both at speed, and been doing it for over 30 years.
If you want 2WD that is just OK fine by me (I have one) I sure as hell do not give a damn what you race as long as you are having fun doing it!

Your points...

Big dollar???
C1 is about $175,000 to about $300,000... TT is about a quarter mill up.
Class 7s in averaging under $100k and 7 is less then that, chump change by comparison!
Parts failures, more 2WD rigs DNF'd then 4WD.
The 4WD rigs that DNF'd were mostly due to parts that have nothing to do with the front drive.
Class 11 is the true ironman class and I have nothing but respect even at 2MPH through the silt....

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:10 PM   #22
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The 4WD rigs that DNF'd were mostly due to parts that have nothing to do with the front drive.
thaat is what i was thinking i would think 4 wd is beefer than 2 wd
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:39 PM   #23
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Unwadd em!
I have fawking both 4 & 2WD, and have run both at speed, and been doing it for over 30 years.
If you want 2WD that is just OK fine by me (I have one) I sure as hell do not give a damn what you race as long as you are having fun doing it!

Your points...

Big dollar???
C1 is about $175,000 to about $300,000... TT is about a quarter mill up.
Class 7s in averaging under $100k and 7 is less then that, chump change by comparison!
Parts failures, more 2WD rigs DNF'd then 4WD.
The 4WD rigs that DNF'd were mostly due to parts that have nothing to do with the front drive.
Class 11 is the true ironman class and I have nothing but respect even at 2MPH through the silt....

Done.
i ment big dollar as in the teams that have more money than others in the class 7 (averaje joes vs. well off companies) .. forget about the trophys and class 1s jesus come on

100k class 7s huh... and class 7 cheaper... right...
maybe more 2wds failed because there is almost six times as many 2wd than
4wd.. please get your google facts straight

ivan stewart is the true ironman

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Old 12-01-2008, 10:30 PM   #24
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i ment big dollar as in the teams that have more money than others in the class 7 (averaje joes vs. well off companies) .. forget about the trophys and class 1s jesus come on

100k class 7s huh... and class 7 cheaper... right...
maybe more 2wds failed because there is almost six times as many 2wd than
4wd.. please get your google facts straight

ivan stewart is the true ironman

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Old 12-01-2008, 10:45 PM   #25
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ok guys the whole reason we started this forum part was for helpful info and on ideas that people have and would like to try. Every person has their own opinion and is entitled to it but bullshit fighting with eachother is not what we are here for. save it for another place. I might be comin across harsh on this but i dont want this forum to turn inot a dramarangers. there is a reason i like this one so much because there is no of this cussin eachother out and sayin "my opinion is always right and everyone should abide by it".


Anyhow, i prefer 2wd over 4wd due to how cheap it is and how readily avaible parts are. now when your racing long distance, chances are you will prerun the coarse first and find the deep silt beds and bad hill climbs. thats when you find your ways around it or best trail up it.

4wd is a great back up and would be great on a prerunner but for racing application i do not believe it is the best way. should something break, bend or sieze in the front end that part will most likely be more expensive than something on a 2wd and things will break. in all the desert races i have seen and been in though i have yet to see where you have to have 4wd to make it to the finish line. To me a 4wd is just not worth it, its too expensive to buy and to fix nor is it practical in my eyes but there are others out there that think differently. to each his own

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Actually Trophy Trucks outrun everything else because they have 800+ HP and cycle over 2 feet (sometimes 3) of suspension travel and spend hours tuning shocks with quad bypasses and coil-overs all around. If you spend $700 000+ it's hard not to beat the other classes.

Also most Trophy Trucks are 2wd, I can only think of one that was built 4wd and I can't even remember who built it so chances are it wasn't too significant and probably didn't do well enough to remember lol jk jk.

My vote is on 2wd for racing but since I live in BC I would definately build a 4wd if I could. Funny thing is I am building a 2wd anyways haha.
yes all TT are 2wd drive except for the terrible herbst trophy truck. the problem with 4wd in a TT is the limit to wheel travel and now you are turning more mass which can put more load on all teh drive line parts and cause premature failure. the most the herbst can run is 20" reliably. reg TT's run 27+ up front
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Let's not start with the bickering.

It's just a poll.

I'm sure people have their own reason for choosing 2WD or 4WD.

People can have the same arguements all day long about whether to have a manual or automatic in a trail rig.
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dramarangers... LoL that was a good one
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TT have 800hp, spool, and 26"+ of front travel......the only 4wd TT i can think of is the old Macpherson TT form the late 90s......when u are going 120+, u dont really need 4wd.....and when u get in the sticky stuff, u always got that spool to get u out
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Who cares really? Run it! You can pay big bucks for a race truck weather its 2 or 4wd but that doesn't mean it comes with talent. If your a good driver you can get though the worst desert with an open diff 2 flats and 5 cylinders.....

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You sir have a "4wd for the right task" until you can do it all in a 2wd then your still lacking talent... I'm just messing with ya haha!
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