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Old 11-16-2011, 11:24 AM   #13
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I don't think most of us here would consider stocking up on ammo with the thought to steal what we need but for self defense and hunting. An EMP fries everything with a chip that's not shielded. What I read said that a single nuke set off over the east coast at 250 miles high would fry our power grid and all unshielded electronics almost to California.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:26 AM   #14
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My survival plans involve a bronco 2 and a shitload of ammo.

my survival plans don't involve hunkering down, they involve drifting, which may work better.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:30 AM   #15
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I'm not gonna say I wouldn't steal if it was life or death for my family.. Bc things in that kind of situation would get weird and weird outcomes will happen. As long as I could rely on hunting to feed my family then I'd go that route.

But yes the main point would be self defense and hunting.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:34 AM   #16
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if everone is hunting at once, with a large population, game will get thin.. best plan is to get land and grow your own food, get your friends and family together to defend it and offer to trade with people if they dont try to shoot you, if they do, then turn em into manure... reminds me of the acient "ant and the grasshoper" story..
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To have any chances of survival you will have to get as far away from big population places, when ppl get cold and houngry they will put their hands on your stuff without thinking about it, and if they can, they will kill you to get what they want.
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1) Home preparedness (food, water, heat, electric)

-Wood burning furnace (ducted through out the house)
-Cistern setup is what our house has, can haul your own water in and store/pump it.
-Run a diesel generator on bio-fuel

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3) The perfect survival/bug-out vehicle (mini, fullsize, pickup, suv, other)

-A 4wd version of my 95' dodge diesel with a 'work' style canopy. Enough 4wd ability for most area's and enough storage for gear/parts and mileage to keep you sustained for long periods of time, I can pull over 600miles/1000km to a tank and it'll run on biodiesel as well.

Like this but older with the 12V, and the compartment doors where the windows are....

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Old 11-16-2011, 11:49 AM   #19
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What if on this big chuck of land you trap and breed hogs? Lol I realize you'd have to feed them but they'll feel you.

Or cattle.. Eats grass.. Gives you beef. Just have to keep others from killing or stealing them
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thats called farming lol, instead of cyotes, its raiders
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My bobtail gets 16mpg with no trailer. Can push. Anything out of its way and can run on bio fuel/ wmo. Has enough room for my family of 5 and can pull whatever I want. I got a few days worth of MRE's and storable food and water filters....... Plan on a cross bow, shot gun, AR-15, my 9mm, and a big bore I have yet to purchase...... Like somebody else said, I plan on staying on the move.







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Situations I see myself potentially faced with:

1) Being snowed in
2) A black out (temporary - hours or several days)
3) Natural disaster (Tornado? - that could disrupt services for weeks and block roads)
4) Terrorist attack/war (That either disrupts services by direct attack or EMP)

My 4x4 F-150 if equipped with a shell on the back and winch in the front, could be a great bugout vehicle during natural disaster, but may not be useful if an EMP was used.
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Yeah..... Bobtail would also fail during emp...... Idi diesel with an air starter would solve that.... Or be prepared to swap electronic parts..... I should put a spare ecm and fuel modules for the bobtail in the box and get ahold of spare powerstroke electronics.

Not to worried about being snowed in and I can build a simple windmill for power if it came to that.
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really, all you need is an epic ****load of ammo and a car.

trade ammo for what you need.
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