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I used to hate the T6... they are really growing on me.
 

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One other positive thing to consider is that there is already a ton of body and suspension aftermarket parts available for the current T6. A lot of that stuff should fit the truck we are likely to get.
I doubt we will be getting all of the same drivetrains with the possible exception of the 3.2L turbo diesel so any performance mods not designed to fit that engine are probably not going to fit our trucks.
My guess is that we will get different gas engine options than other markets but the big diesel will probably be a carryover.
Rumor has it that the small 2.2L turbo diesel is being replaced by new 2.0L for other markets but I would be surprised if we get either of those engines.
However, I will not be surprised if the top gas engine is the 2.3L EcoBoost. If that happens, you will probably see me keeping my V8 Sport Trac for a few more years.
 
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One other positive thing to consider is that there is already a ton of body and suspension aftermarket parts available for the current T6. A lot of that stuff should fit the truck we are likely to get.
I doubt we will be getting all of the same drivetrains with the possible exception of the 3.2L turbo diesel so any performance mods not designed to fit that engine are probably not going to fit our trucks.
My guess is that we will get different gas engine options than other markets but the big diesel will probably be a carryover.
Rumor has it that the small 2.2L turbo diesel is being replaced by new 2.0L for other markets but I would be surprised if we get either of those engines.
However, I will not be surprised if the top gas engine is the 2.3L EcoBoost. If that happens, you will probably see me keeping my V8 Sport Trac for a few more years.
I think the 2.3 Eco would be an excellent engine choice with the right tranny/transfer case/rearend/axles.
 

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I think the 2.3 Eco would be an excellent engine choice with the right tranny/transfer case/rearend/axles.
I'm looking for a reasonably sized truck that can still occasionally tow 7000lbs. The T6 Ranger can already do that with the 3.2L 5 cyl turbo diesel. Problem is I don't want the extra cost and maintenance of a diesel. The 2.3L EcoBoost might be able to tow that kind of weight but I'm betting it would be gas hog when do so because it would be constantly into the boost, especially in the hilly terrain here in western PA. My preference would be the 2.7L V-6 EcoBoost.
 

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Once I got my head around fact that the T-6 Ranger is a 2019 Explorer Sport Trac, I sort of warmed up to it. (I got to compare the trucks side by side in parking lot at one of Mexico plants)

My current bets:

Duratech 2.5 I-4 as loss leader (the "known" engine from RoW)
Cyclone 3.3 V-6 as large NA engine
Ecoboost 2.3 as top engine
Powerstroke 3.2 as Diesel?

Transmission anything you want so long as it is an auto
There might be some 6R80s - RoW Rangers have them behind 2.5 and 3.2.
3.3 and 2.3 Eco get the 10R80

Transfer case:
BW 4467 or 4469 depending AWD or electric respectively

Axels:
Dana 35 IFS front
Dana 44 rear - I do wonder if it will be removable carrier like RoW Ranger or Salisbury.

The rumors that it will only be offered in SCrew/micro bed are...disappointing. There will be a test to see if the Camper fits in the new Ranger or not... I would take a SCrew with a short bed, but that would need a different frame. All 3 configurations of RoW have same wheelbase/OAL = same frame.

p.s. I hope Superlift comes out with new knuckles; the picture Jim posted with the extension block for the upper mount isn't confidence inspiring.
 

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I agree with most of your points. The only exception would be that if it gets the 3.3L non-turbo V-6 that engine might get the 6R80 as well since that is what they use behind that engine in the 2018 F-150.
Like I said before, I'm really hoping the top gas engine is the 2.7L EB but that will probably be reserved for a Raptor version as a 2020 model.
 
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I'm looking for a reasonably sized truck that can still occasionally tow 7000lbs. The T6 Ranger can already do that with the 3.2L 5 cyl turbo diesel. Problem is I don't want the extra cost and maintenance of a diesel. The 2.3L EcoBoost might be able to tow that kind of weight but I'm betting it would be gas hog when do so because it would be constantly into the boost, especially in the hilly terrain here in western PA. My preference would be the 2.7L V-6 EcoBoost.
Would be dangerous to tow 7000 pounds with a small truck.
 

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Would be dangerous to tow 7000 pounds with a small truck.
Truck ain't that small, a tad smaller than a 1997-2003 F-series. I tow 7K with my '02 F-150 quite a bit.

It would be about right for the class, Taco is rated 6500 and I think the Colorado is in the neighborhood too.
 

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T6 Ranger size compared to 2006-10 Explorer Sport Trac; images are same scale more/less:

I couldn't find a great front view of the T-6 (in white), but the width of T6 (Mexico) is 72.8"; last generation Sport Trac was 73.7"

Tow rating for the Mexico T6 is 7,700 lbs which exactly matches the Colorado.

Given 5,200lb F-150s are rated to tow, >12k trailer, the T6 at 4,600lbs is underrated by current standards.

My mistake on the 3.3/10R80; I knew all Mustangs with auto came with 10R80s now; I didn't know they had dropped the V-6 from the 'stang line up. (Should have done my homework).

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Nice comparison, don. Thanks.
 

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T6 Ranger size compared to 2006-10 Explorer Sport Trac; images are same scale more/less:

I couldn't find a great front view of the T-6 (in white), but the width of T6 (Mexico) is 72.8"; last generation Sport Trac was 73.7"

Tow rating for the Mexico T6 is 7,700 lbs which exactly matches the Colorado.

Given 5,200lb F-150s are rated to tow, >12k trailer, the T6 at 4,600lbs is underrated by current standards.

My mistake on the 3.3/10R80; I knew all Mustangs with auto came with 10R80s now; I didn't know they had dropped the V-6 from the 'stang line up. (Should have done my homework).

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Out of curiosity I wondered how the new Ranger would compare to my 2002 F-150 scab shortbox.

225.5" OAL F-150 / 210" Ranger
79.3" Wide F-150 / 72.8" Ranger
75.5" Tall F-150 / 72.8" Ranger
 

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