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why all "water car/hydrogen generators" are scams


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It's just odd that the math is correct in saying it won't work. However people who have done it say it does work.

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The math is correct, except the problem has a flaw or two,

I build gasifiers, and have run two 1/2-ton trucks on "producer gas", (Hydrogen derived from biomass) this is NOT a "supplement fuel" it's a replacement to gasoline (see the link below). I start on it, run on it, and finish on it, BUT biomass is WAY different than getting H2 from water using electrolysis.

Three buddy's of mine are truckers, and 2 have a very elaborate systems and get supplementary fuel for their big trucks using them, they do NOT replace diesel, just help it when up to speed on the highway (literary "pouring on the throttle", lol)

H2 from water is NOT a replacement, IMO, instead it's a very viable addition, easy to make reliable systems can be found on youtube.

personally, since I run the other trucks on producer gas (syngas) and have a vast supply of biomass to run from, I'll continue down that road.

Here's the link to the "quackery" that I do, called "Biomass Gasification"......
http://www.cangas.ca

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I have been researching HHO cells for the past few years now. And I'm considering adding this HHO cel to the intake of my 4.0 OHV Engine. It supposedly adds 30% more mileage. I will be posting some links and or videos shortly. Tell me what you all think, and if you have done this successfully. I'm all ears.
 
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why all "water car/hydrogen generators" are scams

I have recently seen many people attempting to prey on unknowing consumers, who are fed up with high gas prices, by advertising a supposed system, which splits water into hydrogen and oxygen, which is injected into the engine to be used as fuel. These systems are advertised as using an...
www.therangerstation.com www.therangerstation.com

Anyone install a HHO set up on their Ranger yet?

Just like the post states, curious to see how you did it. I just puchased the kit to do mine from Hydrogenfrog.com I wanted to get some pointers from you others who have done.
www.therangerstation.com www.therangerstation.com

HHO gas conversion

has anyone done one yet? what kind of results did you get?
www.therangerstation.com www.therangerstation.com
 
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Here is the basics of an HHO cel or design by Physics scientist Bob Lazar. I will post more info etc, shortly. So before you attempt to debunk this please watch it with an open mind first. Its also known as Browns gas.

 
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The first linked thread pretty thoroughly explains why it's snake oil.

You'd be better off running the ranger on wood. Then you wouldn't need petrol at all.
 
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This must be an advanced HHO system cel type.

 
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I will probably go with a larger HHO cel which produces more Browns Gas or Hydrogen gas.
I'm debating the different sizes etc.
 
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You will be well served to look up Bob Lazar before taking anything he says at face value.
 
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fastpakr said:
You will be well served to look up Bob Lazar before taking anything he says at face value.
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Bob Lazar actually developed a rocket engine that he actually interfaced/utilized on a bicycle.
An Interesting man. Its out there on the internet,. I'm serious. PS I just enclosed it below.
 
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This is Bob's prototype. A turbo engine he interfaced on a bicycle.

 
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Joe Rogan interview with Bob Lazar.
FWIW. This video posted, has over 30 million views.


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After we get past the debunking. I will start presenting my HHO ideas. Its something to consider, and it's only to the open minded people.
 
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fastpakr said:
You will be well served to look up Bob Lazar before taking anything he says at face value.
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Thanks, I've researched Bob Lazar. That is why I posted some of his videos. Check out the one with 30 million views.
 
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