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Switch to: Linear+ cee21 Jul 12 2007, 11:23 AM Post #1
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There is a guy I am going to get the wiring and ecm off of his 91 mustang because he is going carbed. So here are some odds and ends that I have found that I don't know if I need or not. Thermactor air diverter solenoid, thermactor air bypass solenoid, vaccum storage canister (the one I have will work maybe), canister purge solenoid, barametric pressure sensor, vaccum check valve. I will be swapping into a 84 b2. Can I use the fuel pump he has? I got all of this from this site http://www.mustangforums.com/m_563238/tm.htm
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wade Jul 13 2007, 12:35 AM Post #2
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 12 2007, 12:23 PM)
There is a guy I am going to get the wiring and ecm off of his 91 mustang because he is going carbed. So here are some odds and ends that I have found that I don't know if I need or not. Thermactor air diverter solenoid, thermactor air bypass solenoid, vaccum storage canister (the one I have will work maybe), canister purge solenoid, barametric pressure sensor, vaccum check valve. I will be swapping into a 84 b2. Can I use the fuel pump he has? I got all of this from this site http://www.mustangforums.com/m_563238/tm.htm
Thermactor solenoids - depends upon what you're building and if it needs 'em to be able to pass emissions.
Vacuum Canister - will help steady out any pulsations from the vacuum signal to sensors and provide sufficient vacuum to operate climate controls without affecting other sensors.
Canister purge solenoid - Are you using a (the) charcoal canister?
BMAP - This is a must!
Vaccum check valve - You might need it. depending upon the vacuum schematic you are using to set up your vacuum system. Put it in a ziplock and keep it.
If you aren't building the engine (HIPO), the stock pump should work. If you are building the engine, you might (should) want to upgrade.
Funny, I read this post on RPS, too.
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cee21 Jul 13 2007, 01:05 PM Post #3
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Yeah I posted it in both places to try to get a quick response. Sometimes posts get read but not responded to, so just doubling my chances. Emissions is not a concern, so I take it that I don't need the thermactor solenoids. And I don't know what you mean by charcoal canister? I also posted this on v8-ranger.com and got a reply saying I need all of this. That is if I was needing to pass emissions right? To start with it will be stock and will be modified here and there down the road, such as, GT40 intake, TB, etc.
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 13 2007, 02:05 PM)
Yeah I posted it in both places to try to get a quick response. Sometimes posts get read but not responded to, so just doubling my chances. Emissions is not a concern, so I take it that I don't need the thermactor solenoids.
That would seem correct. Will you have cat(s) installed? EGR?
And I don't know what you mean by charcoal canister?
Fuel tank is vented thru a charcoal canister to head-off venting hydrocarbons into the atmosphere.
I also posted this on v8-ranger.com and got a reply saying I need all of this. That is if I was needing to pass emissions right?
Correct.
I can't tell you whether or not you'll set codes (DTC's) by their elimination though. If you have any kind of state inspection, a check engine light will usually fail you. Is it intended to be a daily driver or a quarter horse?
To start with it will be stock and will be modified here and there down the road, such as, GT40 intake, TB, etc.
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cee21 Jul 14 2007, 05:54 PM Post #5
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No cats, and will still have the egr. Got you on the charcoal canister. No inspections in Tennessee, it will be driven mostly on street just to joy ride in. Thanks for the help.
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My next question is how to feed the fuel to it. In the tech article about 5.0 wiring Bob used the tank out of a fuel injected b2. Does the fuel pump need to be upgraded if I switch tanks? Or can I just put an external fuel pump on it and how would I do the return line if I did this? Lastly does the fuel lines need to be changed or just the fuel filter?
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
My next question is how to feed the fuel to it. In the tech article about 5.0 wiring Bob used the tank out of a fuel injected b2.
Does the fuel pump need to be upgraded if I switch tanks?
Just because you swap tanks? No. But, while you are there would be a good time to consider it. What knucklehead would replace a clutch plate and reuse the old throw-out bearing? If the money's there and you have the inclination - upgrade it. Should you ever decide to build the engine and upgrade HP, the fuel supply would be there to support it.
Or can I just put an external fuel pump on it and how would I do the return line if I did this? Lastly does the fuel lines need to be changed or just the fuel filter?
If you use the intank pump, you shouldn't have to mess with modifying the fuel lines. Except, perhaps right at the engine. K-I-S-S (keep it simple.)
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Switch to: Linear+ cee21 Jul 12 2007, 11:23 AM Post #1
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There is a guy I am going to get the wiring and ecm off of his 91 mustang because he is going carbed. So here are some odds and ends that I have found that I don't know if I need or not. Thermactor air diverter solenoid, thermactor air bypass solenoid, vaccum storage canister (the one I have will work maybe), canister purge solenoid, barametric pressure sensor, vaccum check valve. I will be swapping into a 84 b2. Can I use the fuel pump he has? I got all of this from this site http://www.mustangforums.com/m_563238/tm.htm
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wade Jul 13 2007, 12:35 AM Post #2
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 12 2007, 12:23 PM)
There is a guy I am going to get the wiring and ecm off of his 91 mustang because he is going carbed. So here are some odds and ends that I have found that I don't know if I need or not. Thermactor air diverter solenoid, thermactor air bypass solenoid, vaccum storage canister (the one I have will work maybe), canister purge solenoid, barametric pressure sensor, vaccum check valve. I will be swapping into a 84 b2. Can I use the fuel pump he has? I got all of this from this site http://www.mustangforums.com/m_563238/tm.htm
Thermactor solenoids - depends upon what you're building and if it needs 'em to be able to pass emissions.
Vacuum Canister - will help steady out any pulsations from the vacuum signal to sensors and provide sufficient vacuum to operate climate controls without affecting other sensors.
Canister purge solenoid - Are you using a (the) charcoal canister?
BMAP - This is a must!
Vaccum check valve - You might need it. depending upon the vacuum schematic you are using to set up your vacuum system. Put it in a ziplock and keep it.
If you aren't building the engine (HIPO), the stock pump should work. If you are building the engine, you might (should) want to upgrade.
Funny, I read this post on RPS, too.
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cee21 Jul 13 2007, 01:05 PM Post #3
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Yeah I posted it in both places to try to get a quick response. Sometimes posts get read but not responded to, so just doubling my chances. Emissions is not a concern, so I take it that I don't need the thermactor solenoids. And I don't know what you mean by charcoal canister? I also posted this on v8-ranger.com and got a reply saying I need all of this. That is if I was needing to pass emissions right? To start with it will be stock and will be modified here and there down the road, such as, GT40 intake, TB, etc.
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 13 2007, 02:05 PM)
Yeah I posted it in both places to try to get a quick response. Sometimes posts get read but not responded to, so just doubling my chances. Emissions is not a concern, so I take it that I don't need the thermactor solenoids.
That would seem correct. Will you have cat(s) installed? EGR?
And I don't know what you mean by charcoal canister?
Fuel tank is vented thru a charcoal canister to head-off venting hydrocarbons into the atmosphere.
I also posted this on v8-ranger.com and got a reply saying I need all of this. That is if I was needing to pass emissions right?
Correct.
I can't tell you whether or not you'll set codes (DTC's) by their elimination though. If you have any kind of state inspection, a check engine light will usually fail you. Is it intended to be a daily driver or a quarter horse?
To start with it will be stock and will be modified here and there down the road, such as, GT40 intake, TB, etc.
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cee21 Jul 14 2007, 05:54 PM Post #5
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No cats, and will still have the egr. Got you on the charcoal canister. No inspections in Tennessee, it will be driven mostly on street just to joy ride in. Thanks for the help.
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cee21 Jul 17 2007, 11:03 AM Post #6
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My next question is how to feed the fuel to it. In the tech article about 5.0 wiring Bob used the tank out of a fuel injected b2. Does the fuel pump need to be upgraded if I switch tanks? Or can I just put an external fuel pump on it and how would I do the return line if I did this? Lastly does the fuel lines need to be changed or just the fuel filter?
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wade Jul 29 2007, 11:51 AM Post #7
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QUOTE(cee21 @ Jul 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
My next question is how to feed the fuel to it. In the tech article about 5.0 wiring Bob used the tank out of a fuel injected b2.
Does the fuel pump need to be upgraded if I switch tanks?
Just because you swap tanks? No. But, while you are there would be a good time to consider it. What knucklehead would replace a clutch plate and reuse the old throw-out bearing? If the money's there and you have the inclination - upgrade it. Should you ever decide to build the engine and upgrade HP, the fuel supply would be there to support it.
Or can I just put an external fuel pump on it and how would I do the return line if I did this? Lastly does the fuel lines need to be changed or just the fuel filter?
If you use the intank pump, you shouldn't have to mess with modifying the fuel lines. Except, perhaps right at the engine. K-I-S-S (keep it simple.)