Jbrown1238
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I am having an issue with my 306 V8 Ranger that seems to come and go. Any feedback or brain storming ideas would be appreciated as to what might be causing the issue. I will try to provide as much information as possible to help identify what might be occurring. I will include a list of components used in the build a little further down page. The package now has approx. 200,000 miles on the build. The problem comes and goes with long periods of time running without issue.
The truck is pulling spark timing at Tip in. Off the line under normal load/semi aggressive load it will stumble and shutter. We can see the spark curve through a datalog drop to 7-9 degrees when this occurs and then return back to normal. The truck is down slightly on power throughout the rpm range but normally runs fairly well. At times there is an intermittent issue with bucking and a very noticible mis-like condition through out the rpm range under load and through all gears. That issue comes and goes and seems to be brought on when the spark plugs are changed. It feels like bad gas but some times stays for several tanks of fuel or 1000 miles.
Here is what has been done to identify and correct the issue so far.
Changed spark plugs several times, at least 4 times. Motorcraft SPF432, Autolite 103,104,764. Experimenting with gap ranging from 44-54, mainly 54.
Changed plug wires. Stock Motorcraft Explorer replacement.
Replaced, MAF, fuel filter, TPS, Cam position sensor, ACT, EGR, DPMS, O2 sensors, coil packs.
Went to a back up ECM and a back up custom tune.
Had full induction system cleaning with BG treatment. Injectors showing good pulse and flow.
Smoke test, no vacuum leaks anywhere.
Compression test, all cylinders between 149-152.
Scoped the truck on three different devices. Nothing unusual.
Did have occasional codes, po401, po402 prior to EGR and throttle body being cleaned. Codes are now gone.
Sent a camera down each spark plug hole and down each intake runner. Extremely clean and tight everywhere. No unusual play in cam timing.
Here is what has not been done.
Crank positioning sensor, IAC (although it was cleaned). Cam synchronizer. PCV valve.
My main question, "what would cause it to pull timing at tip in?"
Build details
306 ci, stock block and deck height, .030 over bore
PATS disabled
Custom tune
Stock crank
Scat con rods
Silvolite Hyperutectic pistons, 9.5 comp, 1605 comp height.
Everything weight matched to plus or minus .5 grams.
Entire assembly balanced with balancer, flywheel, and clutch pack.
Comp cams Xe-264-hr cam
Ford Racing Timing set
Ford Racing lifters
Crane push rods
Stock 1.6 rockers
Ported GT40P heads, .004 milled, Trickflow springs.
Ported GT40 intake
Gasket matched throttle body elbow
24 lbs injectors
Stock Explorer throttle body
Walbro 195 fuel pump
TM Headers
Custom mandrel bent 2 1/2 exhaust through two Flowmaster 44's
T5 z-spec 5 speed trans
3.55 Trac Lok rear.
29 inch tire
The truck is pulling spark timing at Tip in. Off the line under normal load/semi aggressive load it will stumble and shutter. We can see the spark curve through a datalog drop to 7-9 degrees when this occurs and then return back to normal. The truck is down slightly on power throughout the rpm range but normally runs fairly well. At times there is an intermittent issue with bucking and a very noticible mis-like condition through out the rpm range under load and through all gears. That issue comes and goes and seems to be brought on when the spark plugs are changed. It feels like bad gas but some times stays for several tanks of fuel or 1000 miles.
Here is what has been done to identify and correct the issue so far.
Changed spark plugs several times, at least 4 times. Motorcraft SPF432, Autolite 103,104,764. Experimenting with gap ranging from 44-54, mainly 54.
Changed plug wires. Stock Motorcraft Explorer replacement.
Replaced, MAF, fuel filter, TPS, Cam position sensor, ACT, EGR, DPMS, O2 sensors, coil packs.
Went to a back up ECM and a back up custom tune.
Had full induction system cleaning with BG treatment. Injectors showing good pulse and flow.
Smoke test, no vacuum leaks anywhere.
Compression test, all cylinders between 149-152.
Scoped the truck on three different devices. Nothing unusual.
Did have occasional codes, po401, po402 prior to EGR and throttle body being cleaned. Codes are now gone.
Sent a camera down each spark plug hole and down each intake runner. Extremely clean and tight everywhere. No unusual play in cam timing.
Here is what has not been done.
Crank positioning sensor, IAC (although it was cleaned). Cam synchronizer. PCV valve.
My main question, "what would cause it to pull timing at tip in?"
Build details
306 ci, stock block and deck height, .030 over bore
PATS disabled
Custom tune
Stock crank
Scat con rods
Silvolite Hyperutectic pistons, 9.5 comp, 1605 comp height.
Everything weight matched to plus or minus .5 grams.
Entire assembly balanced with balancer, flywheel, and clutch pack.
Comp cams Xe-264-hr cam
Ford Racing Timing set
Ford Racing lifters
Crane push rods
Stock 1.6 rockers
Ported GT40P heads, .004 milled, Trickflow springs.
Ported GT40 intake
Gasket matched throttle body elbow
24 lbs injectors
Stock Explorer throttle body
Walbro 195 fuel pump
TM Headers
Custom mandrel bent 2 1/2 exhaust through two Flowmaster 44's
T5 z-spec 5 speed trans
3.55 Trac Lok rear.
29 inch tire
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