silverado zr2. what a joke - Page 3

**Will** · 11-05-2009, 11:12 PM

Well, the Honda Ridgeline beat the Raptor so there's no traction there.

I'm waiting for my 22 year-old Chevy to bite the dust--for the shit 6.2 to fall out on the ground, for the SLA suspension to wrap itself up into a jumble of twisted pot-metal. But since it's older than most of the fags that bash it (I'm not Larry Johnson so I can say fags) I won't worry about it.

Seriously, the Chevy is a Made In USA thing and you should support it. Those are being built by Americans too--unless they are being built in Mexica by Americans, North, one each. Know what I mean? Your loyalty to a brand is stronger than anything else in your life. That's a serious problem. The Ford vs GM thing is a conspiracy crafted by Asians to strike a division between our national unity and allow the Nissan and Datsun pickups to enter the market. Your fathers fell victim to it, sometimes bought a Japanese pickup, and we have been a lost nation ever since. And now, 35 years later, you guys are so brainwashed tha you still bitch about GMs while the enemy has roots deeper than the average lilac in the yard of your modular home. It's disgusting. Your brother ZR2 wants your blessing and you spit in his face.

I spurn you.

**mini274** · 11-06-2009, 03:32 AM

zukirider21 · 11-06-2009, 04:42 PM

x2!

who cares we can make fun of whatever the **** we want.

**TheTopher** · 11-06-2009, 05:11 PM

I'm no happier than anybody else about the asian vehicles in this country, I'm even more unhappy that they're BETTER than most of the vehicles made in this country. My company vehicle is an 07 Silverado and it has given me NOTHING but problems.

it's overheated twice, the fan control relay almost caught fire (filled the cab with smoke) the tech said it was a "common problem" Good to know their trucks commonly catch fire.
The coolant temp sensor went bad
One morning it took about fifteen minutes to get started
and it's beginning to give me transmission problems, about twice a month I'll put it in gear but it'll stay in park.

The truck is only two years old!

I am NEVER going to buy one of their vehicles out of my own pocket.

These are problems I never had with my honda, or my ford for that matter. I think people supporting these crap boxes GM is making simply because they're made here is freaking ridiculous. Ford is at least getting their act together and building vehicles that are high quality in their own right, even when compared to the Asian competition. Unlike GM who built crappy vehicles and then needed a bailout after nobody bought them.

Bottom line:
Gm may be built here but they're quality in my opinion is ranked just above Kia.

mattpresley · 11-06-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will

Well, the Honda Ridgeline beat the Raptor so there's no traction there.

The fagmobile beat the Raptor? Proof?

**mini274** · 11-06-2009, 05:41 PM

yea but toyota and nissan are built in the U.S. i live 5 min from a yota plant in indiana so their still givin americans jobs... and their pretty good quality... also 3 miles down from the yota plant theirs a sweet ass ford plant

zukirider21 · 11-06-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattpresley

The fagmobile beat the Raptor? Proof?

the fagmobile DID NOT beat the raptor, in any way.

it placed higher than the raptor in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLASS! APPLES AND ORANGES!!!

fordmandan87 · 11-07-2009, 03:52 PM

can anybody tell the guys on the gm site that its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

mattpresley · 11-07-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordmandan87

can anybody tell the guys on the gm site that its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

Yep Message has been delivered to that board

willied · 11-07-2009, 09:04 PM

Although the Raptor looks slightly too large in the front it looks amazing compared to that mall crawler of a Silverado, and the black Raptor looks sick quite honestly, I'm just a little sick of the orange one, though. But the new Silverados are way too square in all the wrong places.

aridranger03 · 11-17-2009, 10:00 PM

I think that Chevy cannot compete with Ford since the Raptor was engineered and developed over quite a period of time. I think Chevy panicked and just through a lift kit and 20s on their truck. It has nowhere near the suspension capabilities of the Raptor. I'd sure like to see how that carbon fiber holds up on an off road truck. Also more hp doesn't always make something better since alot has to do with the tranmission, gearing, tires, etc. Chevy always has to let everyone know that they produce more hp, but their useless ads mean nothing to me.

clamdigger · 11-19-2009, 09:39 PM

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

WhatYouMeanByRecall? · 11-24-2009, 10:50 AM

I like the look of it... but it still has nothing on the Raptor!

zukirider21 · 11-24-2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clamdigger

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

power wagon? might as well compare that pussy shit to a skateboard, not the raptor. lmao

hilbile · 11-25-2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clamdigger

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

pickuptrucks.com did a comparison test of the raptor and Power wagon.. since its an apples to oranges comparo, you can read and decide. Honestly with the raptor being as badazz as it is I would rather take a power wagon. 3/4 ton AND straight axles front and rear. If ford did a 250 raptor variant kind of with a straight axle and diesel well sign me up!

11-05-2009, 11:12 PM	#31
Will Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brown County, Indiana Year: 1989 Make: Ford Model: Bronco II Engine: 4.0 Class: 4X4 Used For: Pulling Toboggans Posts: 4,941 Rep Power: 10 iTrader: (1)	Well, the Honda Ridgeline beat the Raptor so there's no traction there. I'm waiting for my 22 year-old Chevy to bite the dust--for the shit 6.2 to fall out on the ground, for the SLA suspension to wrap itself up into a jumble of twisted pot-metal. But since it's older than most of the fags that bash it (I'm not Larry Johnson so I can say fags) I won't worry about it. Seriously, the Chevy is a Made In USA thing and you should support it. Those are being built by Americans too--unless they are being built in Mexica by Americans, North, one each. Know what I mean? Your loyalty to a brand is stronger than anything else in your life. That's a serious problem. The Ford vs GM thing is a conspiracy crafted by Asians to strike a division between our national unity and allow the Nissan and Datsun pickups to enter the market. Your fathers fell victim to it, sometimes bought a Japanese pickup, and we have been a lost nation ever since. And now, 35 years later, you guys are so brainwashed tha you still bitch about GMs while the enemy has roots deeper than the average lilac in the yard of your modular home. It's disgusting. Your brother ZR2 wants your blessing and you spit in his face. I spurn you. __________________ -'89 B2--4.0, 5spd, D35, 8.8, 4.10, pair of Lock-Rights, Superwinch Epi 9.0, James Duff with Jeep XJ coils -'88 Chevy crewcab--6.2L Banks turbodiesel, TH400, Gear Vendors splitter, 14-bolt w/4.10s & No-Spin -'91 IH 3800 "Skoolie" RV--DTA360, Fuller 6-speed My Website

11-17-2009, 10:00 PM	#41
aridranger03 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tri-Cities, TN Year: 2003 Make: Ford Model: Edge Flareside Engine: 3.0 V6 Class: 2WD Used For: Taking Me Where Ever I May Roam Posts: 58 Rep Power: 4 iTrader: (0)	I think that Chevy cannot compete with Ford since the Raptor was engineered and developed over quite a period of time. I think Chevy panicked and just through a lift kit and 20s on their truck. It has nowhere near the suspension capabilities of the Raptor. I'd sure like to see how that carbon fiber holds up on an off road truck. Also more hp doesn't always make something better since alot has to do with the tranmission, gearing, tires, etc. Chevy always has to let everyone know that they produce more hp, but their useless ads mean nothing to me. __________________ 2003 Ford Ranger Edge Reg. Cab Flareside 2wd 3.0 5 Speed 4:10 Limited Slip Mods: 3rd Brake Light To Cargo Light, Tow Hooks, Fabtech AAL, Step Bars Wanted: 06+ Tails, 06+ Corners, Edge Decals, Tint

11-24-2009, 10:50 AM	#43
WhatYouMeanByRecall? New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Louisiana Year: 2001 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 4.0 Class: 2WD Used For: Everything under the sun! Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 iTrader: (0)	I like the look of it... but it still has nothing on the Raptor! __________________ 2001 Ford Ranger 4.0 31" Yokohama Geolander A/T Tires 3" Body lift (Former Fleet Vehicle)

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11-06-2009, 03:32 AM	#32
mini274 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Princeton, IN & Elizabethton, TN Year: 1993 Make: ford Model: F-150, no more ranger :( Engine: 302 Class: 2WD Street Used For: DD Posts: 525 Rep Power: 3 iTrader: (0)

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TheTopher Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Year: 1995 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 2.3 Class: 2WD Used For: Everything Posts: 1,080 Rep Power: 6 iTrader: (0)	I'm no happier than anybody else about the asian vehicles in this country, I'm even more unhappy that they're BETTER than most of the vehicles made in this country. My company vehicle is an 07 Silverado and it has given me NOTHING but problems. it's overheated twice, the fan control relay almost caught fire (filled the cab with smoke) the tech said it was a "common problem" Good to know their trucks commonly catch fire. The coolant temp sensor went bad One morning it took about fifteen minutes to get started and it's beginning to give me transmission problems, about twice a month I'll put it in gear but it'll stay in park. The truck is only two years old! I am NEVER going to buy one of their vehicles out of my own pocket. These are problems I never had with my honda, or my ford for that matter. I think people supporting these crap boxes GM is making simply because they're made here is freaking ridiculous. Ford is at least getting their act together and building vehicles that are high quality in their own right, even when compared to the Asian competition. Unlike GM who built crappy vehicles and then needed a bailout after nobody bought them. Bottom line: Gm may be built here but they're quality in my opinion is ranked just above Kia.

11-06-2009, 05:41 PM	#36
mini274 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Princeton, IN & Elizabethton, TN Year: 1993 Make: ford Model: F-150, no more ranger :( Engine: 302 Class: 2WD Street Used For: DD Posts: 525 Rep Power: 3 iTrader: (0)	yea but toyota and nissan are built in the U.S. i live 5 min from a yota plant in indiana so their still givin americans jobs... and their pretty good quality... also 3 miles down from the yota plant theirs a sweet ass ford plant

11-07-2009, 03:52 PM	#38
fordmandan87 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: cheektowaga, ny Year: 87/89/89/94/96 Make: Ford Model: F-250/Ranger/F-250/Explorer/Ranger Engine: 7.5/2.9/7.3/4.0/2.3 Class: 4x4/4x4/4x4/4x4/4x2 Used For: Everything Posts: 178 Rep Power: 5 iTrader: (2)	can anybody tell the guys on the gm site that its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

11-07-2009, 09:04 PM	#40
willied Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fortson, GA Year: 2006 Make: Ford Model: Explorer Engine: V8 Class: 2WD Used For: Burning gas Posts: 350 Rep Power: 3 iTrader: (0)	Although the Raptor looks slightly too large in the front it looks amazing compared to that mall crawler of a Silverado, and the black Raptor looks sick quite honestly, I'm just a little sick of the orange one, though. But the new Silverados are way too square in all the wrong places.

11-19-2009, 09:39 PM	#42
clamdigger New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Auburn, NS Year: 1991 Make: Jeep Model: YJ Engine: 2.5 Class: 4x4 Used For: Play Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0 iTrader: (0)	How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

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