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Old 06-21-2012, 11:25 AM   #13
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i believe clevlands had bigger heads.
Slightly.

The later Windsors had pretty much the same heads as a 302... and they were for the most part marginal for a 302. Even the "good" 351W heads were not that great on a 351W.

The 351W has much better aftermarket than a Cleveland... which is handy because it will need it to keep up... even the 2bb 351C. They have both bigger ports and valves from the get-go.

It really depends on what you are going to do with it. If you want something fun to drive around either would be a good choice, the later model 351W (which are still pushing 20 years old) will probably be a healthier JY find than a 40 year old 351C but if you find a good one of either it will be a fun ride.

If you are going for a straight up drag truck where you are basically only going to use the block and maybe the crank/rods... 351W is the only way to go.
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ford still produces a 351w crate motor, iirc, and was available in the f-250 until atleast 97...
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As far as strong goes, the 351C and 351W are both really good. The 69 351w is probubly the best, but harder to find. The C has better heads from the factory in 2v or 4v. 2v heads have good runners and 2.04 intake and 1.67 exhaust valves. I think the best 351w heads have 1.94 1.60 valves. The 4v had 2.19 1.71 valves and big runners, but they are really best designed for higher rpm racing. Some of the best aftermarket heads out there are for the 351c. Do to the large amount of these engines being used in australia, a few companys down there came up with great aftermarket cylinder heads. They have good cranks and everything you need to build up to a 800+hp engine. The Windsor has alot of options too, but If you want to build a decent 400+hp engine the cleveland can be done with alot of factory parts. Check out CHI if you want to see the best heads out there. 351c is about the same size as the W, its the 351M that has the tall deck and bigger shape. There are alot of guys having good luck with the windsor in high hp applications where they use the stock crank even, and get into the 9s with 600+rwhp. I personally am building a 351w, but I think the bottem end of the 2 bolt windsor is better than the 2 bolt cleveland. Not a whole lot, but enough. Alot of people like the 1994 to 1996/7 truck efi motors. Seen them get to 800rwhp. Hope this helps make a decision.
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