Front Locker/LS harder on steering?

bobbywalter · Aug 3, 2015

85_Ranger4x4 said:
Since my rear limited slip performs flawless in my wheeling that is why I am inclined to get one for the front. It does the same thing as a locker... spin two tires. I know they operate differently but for me the end result is the same in that when things get hairy I get two rooster tails.

And a rear L/S carrier out of a Jeep is probably cheaper than just about any new locker.

i dont agree.....they help wheeling onn flatish level 2 stuff when over packed till you fail them.

roosters and usable traction in a off camber mogel laden climb are not the same.....

you can drive as stupid as you want with a open or l/s and not follow a locked rig.

i can drive an open and follow a plate clutch posi rig....unless i scatter the spiders first..... in either or.

PlumCrazy · Aug 3, 2015

^truth.

L/S lets you spin both tires in loose dirt/mud...locked actually lets you spin both tires even when they are biting into 50" sandstone boulders....

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PlumCrazy · Aug 3, 2015

L/S and Open are the same in my eyes. I have run open, L/S, locked, and spooled....locked is the way to go if you want to actually go places.

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85_Ranger4x4 · Aug 4, 2015

When I say for me, I mean for me. The rear LS is 4 years old, I have put 20k miles on the truck in 15 years. I think it will be in good shape for a few years to come going by the "worn out in 100k" rule of thumb. It kicks the rear out on demand with the throttle and every video I have shot of it has shown both rears churning without fault. Even both fronts with an open diff do decent job of motating until one side pops out of the drift.

I can watch the videos and whenever the truck struggles/gets stuck it is when I lose the help of a front wheel because one side looses traction.

I live in Iowa, I go screw around in my field in the snow when the crops are out for something to do in the winter (snow wheeling + video editing). Sometimes I am here and need to get something over there on my acreage when it is muddy. Maybe someday a bad storm will hit and I will have to get to town in inclimate weather in an emergency.

The only rock this thing sees is the crushed limestone the county spreads on the gravel roads. I am not going to drive it 10 hours one way to hit a tough mountain trail anytime soon.

Carlos Murphy · Nov 19, 2015

I have no front locker but when I'm in 4X4 its harder to steer and the bump dose work harder. You REALLY put a load on the pump when you turn the wheel when not moving.
I have 33" Baja Claws on my 88 and am very careful with low speed turns when off road.

gw33gp · Nov 20, 2015

PlumCrazy said:
L/S and Open are the same in my eyes. I have run open, L/S, locked, and spooled....locked is the way to go if you want to actually go places.

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That depends a lot on what type of L/S is being used. The Torsen L/S almost acts like a locker under acceleration. Yes, you can still spin one wheel like you can with an open differential but once you learn how to drive a Torsen, you can still get forward motion with one wheel in the air. The Torsen also has a higher torque bias than a typical clutch type L/S.

I still think a selectable locker is the best choice for the front and that is what I would have if one was available, but they are not.

bobbywalter · Nov 24, 2015

absofawkinglutely it is harder on the powersteering system.....steering parts....all of them and suspension components.

trail B2 · Nov 30, 2015

Bisquick plum crazy bobby walter and me think the same on this.I don't go on rocks not many around here.I put a locke rite in the front works way better in the snow climbs up on top and crawls around.When I'm off road I have it in two wheel drive till it gets slick and put it in four wheel stock steering works great.I recently put a lockrite in the back when I changed to a 8.8 took out a LS 4.10 7.5 the limited slip helped over a open but not a substitute for a locker.

Where a select able would be nice would be icy roads my B2 isn't good on icy roads but I like my pickup better on ice anyway.The thing about the lock rites off road it's usually something slick and steep a sharp turn something slick again.It kicks in and out for me.

85_Ranger4x4 · Dec 1, 2015

Pretty much canned the idea. Info is so hard to come by on a limited slip in the front there must be a reason for it.

I am just going to keep the tractor and chain handy and continue on as before. :dntknw:

alwaysFlOoReD · Dec 1, 2015

If you have a little time you could try adding an extra shim to the side gears. Its an old school way to get limited slip. I've done it to a 9" and a d28 on the front of my b2. The b2 was used for mild snow wheeling and snowplow use. It was harder to turn, like others said it likes to go straight when the hubs are engaged. Hills can be scary if traveling sideways. Straight up or down is great.

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