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That coil and ignition wires did not play well with a supercharged engine, the stock coil and Belden wires were the ticket

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Installing an MSD Ignition On a 3.0

The part #MSD-6200 is discontinued but the new part #MSD-6201 the price is now is $250+. The coil part number is still good.
 

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I just received my 3.0 Taurus intake. The post I found said to also get a Escape 60mm TB or a 65mm from an Explorer. The opening in the new intake is 52mm at best. Is that worth the swap?
I also bought a town and country elec fan. I was quite sure that was the recommended part to use. I had to cut 3" off each side to get it mounted in place. I'm happy with it and saw a power gain and mpg gain (2.5) but it definitely wasn't a drop in part like stated. This may be some updates for you to add
 

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"drop in" is a vague term somewhat like;

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If it didn't involve "a lot" of drilling, grinding, welding, or especially thinking, then it is "drop in".
 

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A 14% improvement in mileage from an electric fan seems unrealistic. No manufacturer would pass that up, and it's not like Ford didn't know about electric fans. Keep track of it long term and see what you get.
 

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but what you gain in not spinning a fan mechanically, dont you lose in more alternator drag from the increased current draw of a electric fan?
 

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There is some trade off there but I don't think it's equal. The mechanical fan is always putting some drag on the engine whether the clutch is engaged or not. It's mass is still attached to the engine and spinning at some speed. The electric fan doesn't require any power when it's not being called for.
 

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My best mpg was 17.2 pre fan and post fan I just got 20mpg. I check every tank. I do think that mine was bad and never would release, that may be why I see good results. Eric, I like that lol.

I really think I should have seen better than 17 to start with but this lil truck was beat.
 

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A 14% improvement in mileage from an electric fan seems unrealistic. No manufacturer would pass that up, and it's not like Ford didn't know about electric fans. Keep track of it long term and see what you get.
Back then the fan/clutch combo was probably cheaper overall. No wires, relays, larger alt. ect ect,...... Price drives many decisions
 

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Back then the fan/clutch combo was probably cheaper overall. No wires, relays, larger alt. ect ect,...... Price drives many decisions
The cheapest cars they make have electric fans. It's not an expensive technology and has been worked out for over 40 years, so I don't really buy that they went with a mechanical fan and clutch to save money. Additionally, automakers go to great lengths to improve mileage ratings, so if they could get that kind of improvement just by using off-the-shelf parts they install on the vast majority of cars these days anyway, I have no doubt they would have. This is why I'm skeptical that the switch to an electric fan will produce that kind of improvement - if it did they would not still be using mechanically driven clutch fans.
 

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The cheapest cars they make have electric fans. It's not an expensive technology and has been worked out for over 40 years, so I don't really buy that they went with a mechanical fan and clutch to save money. Additionally, automakers go to great lengths to improve mileage ratings, so if they could get that kind of improvement just by using off-the-shelf parts they install on the vast majority of cars these days anyway, I have no doubt they would have. This is why I'm skeptical that the switch to an electric fan will produce that kind of improvement - if it did they would not still be using mechanically driven clutch fans.
Keep you fan in place then.
 


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