This 2019 Ford Ranger FX4 has an open front differential


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exactly what is the front axle? specs say DANA Adventek 190mm 3.73:1
is there a BOM on the axle?
spline counts would be handy to know.
along with the spline count it would be interesting to compare the internals to Jeep Advanteks.
perhaps FCA has an agreement with DANA about parts commonality for the Advantek??
 


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My FX4 Super Duty was limited slip front and rear. I can see a base model 4x4 being open in the front, but I expect more from a FX4.
I would like to see at least a limited slip in the front. I plan on putting a Torsen in the front of my 2011. The Dana 35 SLA isn't known to take a locker well. Can you do it? Yep. Will the axle live long after it's been engaged a few times? Maybe, maybe not. I'll/we'll have to wait until we have some sort of info in the 2019 to see what is available and what kind of load and abuse it can take.
 

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I can try to get the spline count tomorrow. We don't assemble the diffs but we do the the ring and pinions at work. People wanting to do a gear change is in for a rude awakening since its welded and not bolted.
 

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exactly what is the front axle? specs say DANA Adventek 190mm 3.73:1
is there a BOM on the axle?
spline counts would be handy to know.
along with the spline count it would be interesting to compare the internals to Jeep Advanteks.
perhaps FCA has an agreement with DANA about parts commonality for the Advantek??
I can try to get the spline count tomorrow. We don't assemble the diffs but we do the the ring and pinions at work. People wanting to do a gear change is in for a rude awakening since its welded and not bolted. We used to do the jk model ELD but not the new jl ELD. We build the super duty ELD pigs at work.
 

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The ring gear is welded to the carrier? So it will require an entire new carrier for every gear change?
 

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Welded? That stinks. So much for any upgrades then...
 

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There has to be some anti DIY'er engineer still laughing that the ring is welded onto the carrier...
 

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I can try to get the spline count tomorrow. We don't assemble the diffs but we do the the ring and pinions at work. People wanting to do a gear change is in for a rude awakening since its welded and not bolted.

I saw that on a Jeep forum.
time to research and see what they do for gear changes.
 

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i didn't get a chance to get any pics today but the laser welder only runs 3days a week. Another thing i think is messed up is what we/I call a carrier, at work it's called the case.
 

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If I can get my hands on a Torsen for my front SLA 35 I would put it in. Of course, a selectable locker for the front would be "better", but I already have a Torsen in the rear and I would want it to match. For the type of offroading I plan on doing I would not need a front locker anyway. I've heard that Torsens front and rear allow a truck to kind of slip it's way through trails. It may not be as confidently done as lockers front and rear but if it gets you through the trail then it's good enough.

A Torsen in the front is probably a better option for most people when it comes to IFS trucks. I've never seen an IFS system that could withstand a locker + abuse. Seems like most people don't understand that so they are better off with a Torsen since it's easier on the axle components. I'm pretty sure the 2016+ F150 Raptors all come with a locker in the rear and a Torsen up front. The Colorado ZR2's are locked front/rear with IFS...I wonder how often dealers are getting customers asking them to repair their ZR2 front suspension after going offroading.
 

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If I can get my hands on a Torsen for my front SLA 35 I would put it in. Of course, a selectable locker for the front would be "better", but I already have a Torsen in the rear and I would want it to match. For the type of offroading I plan on doing I would not need a front locker anyway. I've heard that Torsens front and rear allow a truck to kind of slip it's way through trails. It may not be as confidently done as lockers front and rear but if it gets you through the trail then it's good enough.

A Torsen in the front is probably a better option for most people when it comes to IFS trucks. I've never seen an IFS system that could withstand a locker + abuse. Seems like most people don't understand that so they are better off with a Torsen since it's easier on the axle components. I'm pretty sure the 2016+ F150 Raptors all come with a locker in the rear and a Torsen up front. The Colorado ZR2's are locked front/rear with IFS...I wonder how often dealers are getting customers asking them to repair their ZR2 front suspension after going offroading.
If you got the money, here you go: https://torsen.com/product/ford-ranger-dana-35/
 

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Here is what the weld looks like. Sorry it took so long but like I said they don't run it every day.
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Any idea why they switched to welds in place of bolts?
 

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Any idea why they switched to welds in place of bolts?
welds can save weight. a robot can do it. bolts have heads that stick up, so welds eliminate that. welds are easier to balance if needed. less machining, no holes and threads. its faster.

just a few. but i could be wrong on all lol
 


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