Oil change Process


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Well that pretty much sucks.

I thought going into the wheel well to change #3 spark plug on my 2.8 was bad.

I do wonder if that is the only way though.
 

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That sucks. I can see the aftermarket coming up with a work around for the drain plug.

Possibly for the filter too.


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I can see many exploding turbos in the future from people trying to do 20,000 mile oil changes because they are too lazy to go through all that....
 

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I can see many exploding turbos in the future from people trying to do 20,000 mile oil changes because they are too lazy to go through all that....


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It seems we've been pulling tires and taking off inspection panels to perform regular maintenance since the 80's... this isn't anything new really.

Probably a difference in 2wd vs. 4wd in this case... but maybe not... just seems the 2wd would have a little more room to get at the filter from the bottom. I just hope there is a clear path for the oil to drain and not drain on other components while removing the filter... if not... the clean up might be worse then removing the tire and inspection panel.
 

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When you jack it up to remove the tire, the oil is going to run away from the drain hole. So you will have to drop the jack to get the oil to run out of the motor. Then jack it back up to put the tire back on. right?

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Jack it up. Remove tire. Remove filter. Replace filter. Replace tire. Lower jack. crawl under, remove cover. Drain oil. Replace cover. Fill with 5 quarts(?) of oil.
 

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And it might be fake news written by a no-name outfit too.
 

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When you jack it up to remove the tire, the oil is going to run away from the drain hole. So you will have to drop the jack to get the oil to run out of the motor. Then jack it back up to put the tire back on. right?

or

Jack it up. Remove tire. Remove filter. Replace filter. Replace tire. Lower jack. crawl under, remove cover. Drain oil. Replace cover. Fill with 5 quarts(?) of oil.
That would all depend on where the drain plug is located... The article did state that it had a 6.2 quart oil capacity.
 

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Yeah I just read that article on MSN about how you have to remove the tire to be able to remove the filter. I just don't see it being that close to the tire. Why couldn't you just turn the wheel all the way left or right and get clearance that way? I just don't see it being true. I'm not familiar with the suspension and steering setup on the 2019's but I don't see the filter sticking out past the frame, past the control arm or whatever suspension setup they use and be so close to the tire that unscrewing the filter the 3/4" to get off the thread will be stopped by the tire... If that is the case then there is a major design flaw there. Hey is the battery in the fender as well? Those were always fun.
 

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I'm sure the tire is removed to gain access to the panel that needs to be removed to get at the filter.
 

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I'm sure the tire is removed to gain access to the panel that needs to be removed to get at the filter.
Sounds like a kooky half thought out engine swap...

I doubt many new car buyers change their own oil though.
 

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Oil filter relocation kit.
Fram sure drain drain plug.
That should solve it.
 

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From a year ago in Detroit:

Ranger:


Focus RS:


Ranger has a lot more oil cooler.
 

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It seems we've been pulling tires and taking off inspection panels to perform regular maintenance since the 80's... this isn't anything new really.

Probably a difference in 2wd vs. 4wd in this case... but maybe not... just seems the 2wd would have a little more room to get at the filter from the bottom. I just hope there is a clear path for the oil to drain and not drain on other components while removing the filter... if not... the clean up might be worse then removing the tire and inspection panel.




this.

one step forward....10 steps back.:D


this is a small crime, simply is minor compared to the modification they did to the older style ranger/explorer to fit the cammer 4.0 and pushrod 5.0....

the redesign of the hvac was criminal....treason level. went from the easiest cake walk of a heater core change possible...maybe 15 minutes if you just happened to be too drunk to see at that moment

to like 8 hours by the book....:annoyed::annoyed:


dont get me wrong.....the second one i did only took about and hour and a half after i applied common sense and left the book on the shelf......but i really would like to choke the air off of the people that came up with that brilliant piece of work.

there was a plus...pulling a dash for those in the know only takes a few minutes with power tools. but it has to be because the heater core is retarded now....

with the plus..the later modular wiring is kind of cool if you have the right tools to work with...and doing hvac repair is actually easier then a gen 1 for resealing all of the components...like now that they are so old. but which happens more often:annoyed:




assuming the pictures here that 85 managed to save (seems i lost all of mine) are close what actually made it to final production...



obviously the ranger was setup bit different due to work cycle demand limits...if you look at the cooling its like the rs as far as flow path..(except egr)

quite a few changes....ability to have manual fan as well on the cover ect.

like the old rangers....the flow area just isnt there with this setup to wring it out all the way with all electric cooling at the max load under 25 mph....even with the generous oil capacity and oil cooling ...and egr cooling... and tuning parameters.

these same issues face swappers of the other eco motors...just gets worse as we move along from the gen 1 motors to now...

my questions about noted cooling based on observations of the unit in these pictures went un-answered several times, so i assumed the guys we were with at the debut deal just did not know.

the oil filter location was due to 4wd...that was a direct answer.

but cooling after i mentioned the transit 350 seems to get along ok with a much bigger load and engine... just never went anywhere:dunno:.


naturally

i did not think that pulling a tire off would be required for an oil change though. compared to the edge it isnt any harder....you cant even see anything after crawling under the 150's...covers everywhere. and plastic engine oil pans can eat a dik....

clearly...they do not have enough real world people in charge over there...



20 k oil change with good oil might not hurt it....the egr cooler probably will though.

even with the beefed up ring lands on the pistons compared to the 2.0...these i think will benefit from a oil catch can as the first thing a guy does when he gets home to keep them alive...

but the egr cooler will probably offset the good the catch can would do to keep the valves clean. i suspect port injection added to this things future to keep the valves clean..oil changes will be the easy part of diy ownership.
 


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