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I've never added oil to an oil filter, is it really that important?
 


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Up until recently I've always added oil. For the amount of time it takes to fill the filter, the residual oil left on the journals should be adequate.
 

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I never have really thought about it much, Always. Even when I worked a couple years in a Hertz-Penske truck rental shop, they never even remotely implied it necessary. We'd change oil in those every 15,000 miles, that's 3 to 4 weeks in a semi.
Although I have always watched the oil pressure closely upon starting it up (including on my own), and they all reach normal pressure almost faster than can be noted.
I also drain them warm, but never let it sit to drain for any exessively extended periods.
 

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Yes, a 3.0 will go up a hill. In fact, it goes up fairly steep hills quite nicely (sorry, I don't know what the grade on the hill was). I do know that leaving my grandparents' cabin, the speed limit crossing the valley was 30mph. About an 8th of a mile before I hit the bottom of the hill, I'd drop from 4th into 2nd, shift to third at 4500rpm, and then hold third all the way up the hill. Both the 2.8 in my '85, and the 3.0 in the '91 took that hill at 60MPH.
And that folks, is Canada's biggest Hill.
 

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a person that sells LPG.
 

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After looking at the ad site for the FX4, I recommend them taking pictures of the engine bay and the chassis.

It always makes me leery when they don't have a pic of the engine
 

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Before I ordered my 04 Ranger I test drove a short box 4x4 with a 5 speed and 4.10 gears because I wasn't a fan of the SOHC 4.0. I left the garage and headed up the ramp onto interstate 89 accelerating moderately, I hit 60 just before I crested the hill and shifted to 5th, then had to downshift to 4th to maintain speed. I liked the 3.0 after we got all the piston slapping 86's fixed and the 87's with broken Chinese head gaskets out of the way but it doesn't have enough low end torque for me to want it in a truck, it's probably OK in a 2wd with 4.10's and an automatic because the torque convertor would help. Full disclosure: the truck I replaced with the 04 Ranger was a 1989 F150 with a 300 and a T18 creeper gear, I don't think the 4.0 SOHC has enough torque either.
 

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I've never added oil to an oil filter, is it really that important?
It isn't extremely necessary but it does minimize the time the engine is operating with no oil pressure. Like stated above, there is residual oil in the engine, so it isn't like it's completely oil starved when you first start up after an oil change. With engines that have the filter mounted horizontally, you can't fill the filter up as much but you can soak the element with oil and have a little extra in there without making a mess. That comes with a little trial and error as far as where that line is drawn. Again, not super important but it does minimize the time it take for the oil system to fill the filter and pressurize the system.
 

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It isn't extremely necessary but it does minimize the time the engine is operating with no oil pressure. Like stated above, there is residual oil in the engine, so it isn't like it's completely oil starved when you first start up after an oil change. With engines that have the filter mounted horizontally, you can't fill the filter up as much but you can soak the element with oil and have a little extra in there without making a mess. That comes with a little trial and error as far as where that line is drawn. Again, not super important but it does minimize the time it take for the oil system to fill the filter and pressurize the system.
I prefer to just crank them in clear-flood mode for about 10 seconds. That gets the filter filled, but the engine won't exceed 200 RPM.
 

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I prefer to just crank them in clear-flood mode for about 10 seconds. That gets the filter filled, but the engine won't exceed 200 RPM.
I find that the oil pressure comes up faster if you just start the engine and then stomp it full throttle.
 

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I prefer to just crank them in clear-flood mode for about 10 seconds. That gets the filter filled, but the engine won't exceed 200 RPM.
Not necessarily an bad approach and may be better than what I've been using in some aspects.
 

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