kishy
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- Jan 9, 2018
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- Location
- ON, Canada
- Vehicle Year
- 1985
- Make / Model
- Ranger, RCLB
- Engine Size
- 95 2.3 EFI Swap
- Transmission
- Manual
- 2WD / 4WD
- 2WD
Hi
I would like to eliminate the brake combination valve (e.g. proportioning + dual system) located on the frame rail of my '85. It is reasonably straightforward to do this on my other Ford products, as there are known model years where the functionality of that valve moved into the master cylinder, so you just swap to the specified year master, replumb the car, and done. This is proving a little more complicated to figure out for the Ranger and I'm wondering if maybe someone here will know the right combination of model year parts to get me where I want to be.
I have already figured out that various 1990s years seem to have gotten rid of the combination valve, and front brake splitting was moved to the left hydraulic hose connection, but those years also seem to have RABS, and I'm not sure how critical the RABS valve is to proper drum brake proportioning/residual pressure functionality (that is, the RABS valve might be doing more things than just ABS).
What's throwing me off, looking at various years master cylinders, is that there does not seem to be any sort of thread-in valve that attaches to the master for the rear lines up until 1998. This is what makes me suspect the RABS valve is critical to proper proportioning on those model years.
Example: 1995 Ranger, non-cruise:
Normally, I would expect to see a large threaded hole for the rear line, like the following '91 Crown Vic:
(the large hole is not for a line, but for a valve that looks like a long nut, and the line then threads into that valve)
Compare that to a 1998 Ranger:
where we see that it does use a proportioning/residual pressure valve.
Have I answered my own question and the correct answer is to use a 1998 non-cruise master?
To state my goal clearly:
I want the rear line to exit the master, and be uninterrupted before it reaches the rear axle flex line.
I want the front line to exit the master, go to a simple splitter with no valving, then feed both front brakes.
The master needs to incorporate all system valving functions.
I would like to eliminate the brake combination valve (e.g. proportioning + dual system) located on the frame rail of my '85. It is reasonably straightforward to do this on my other Ford products, as there are known model years where the functionality of that valve moved into the master cylinder, so you just swap to the specified year master, replumb the car, and done. This is proving a little more complicated to figure out for the Ranger and I'm wondering if maybe someone here will know the right combination of model year parts to get me where I want to be.
I have already figured out that various 1990s years seem to have gotten rid of the combination valve, and front brake splitting was moved to the left hydraulic hose connection, but those years also seem to have RABS, and I'm not sure how critical the RABS valve is to proper drum brake proportioning/residual pressure functionality (that is, the RABS valve might be doing more things than just ABS).
What's throwing me off, looking at various years master cylinders, is that there does not seem to be any sort of thread-in valve that attaches to the master for the rear lines up until 1998. This is what makes me suspect the RABS valve is critical to proper proportioning on those model years.
Example: 1995 Ranger, non-cruise:
Normally, I would expect to see a large threaded hole for the rear line, like the following '91 Crown Vic:
(the large hole is not for a line, but for a valve that looks like a long nut, and the line then threads into that valve)
Compare that to a 1998 Ranger:
where we see that it does use a proportioning/residual pressure valve.
Have I answered my own question and the correct answer is to use a 1998 non-cruise master?
To state my goal clearly:
I want the rear line to exit the master, and be uninterrupted before it reaches the rear axle flex line.
I want the front line to exit the master, go to a simple splitter with no valving, then feed both front brakes.
The master needs to incorporate all system valving functions.
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