4.0 retrofitted with a distributor?

[rusty ol ranger]

Absolutely true. The point was that a single coil failure stops you in your tracks. A COP failure causes a miss and throws a code. You can take spare parts for just about anything and everything, but should you have to?

I think the price of the COPs is ridiculous, FWIW.

In all my years of screwing around ive had exactly 2 coils take a shit.

1 was on my farmall cub (6V) and the other on an 83 F150. I coasted into the dollar general, waited 20 minutes and drove it home.

Single coils dont fail as often as people think.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Absolutely true. The point was that a single coil failure stops you in your tracks. A COP failure causes a miss and throws a code. You can take spare parts for just about anything and everything, but should you have to?

I think the price of the COPs is ridiculous, FWIW.

I carry a spare COP coil and the required 7mm wobble socket no parts store stocks with a quarter in drive socket set needed to change it in my ‘150 and a code scanner.

If my ranger dies and the coil is hot I need a coil. Not much to fuss over. I can zip tie the new one in there somewhere to get home although it is FAR easier to replace.

I only carry spares in the 150, including the trip the Ranger just made to Ohio.

 

[RonD]

Why not just run without any ignition coil(s)............................its called a diesel engine

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Why not just run without any ignition coil(s)............................its called a diesel engine

Because sometimes i need to go places when its below zero.

 

[sgtsandman]

I’ve only had a coil fail once and it was on a newer Japanese made vehicle. For an off roader, considering their size, I guess it wouldn’t hurt to carry one. But other things are much more likely to fail that an ignition coil.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I’ve only had a coil fail once and it was on a newer Japanese made vehicle. For an off roader, considering their size, I guess it wouldn’t hurt to carry one. But other things are much more likely to fail that an ignition coil.

One thing that i always get nervous about since ive mostly transitioned to somewhat modern EFI vehicles is the fuel pump.

I think this is one of the main reasons i hang onto my 97 F250 for long camping trips.....dual tanks and two pumps.

A coil is easy to swap roadside, a fuel pump is not and both leave you on the shoulder.

 

[sgtsandman]

Especially since almost all of them are in tank anymore. Good thing they pretty darn reliable.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Especially since almost all of them are in tank anymore. Good thing they pretty darn reliable.

Yes...they are. But still even the best stuff fails...

 

[bobbywalter]

Depends on how you set the vehicle up. Having redundant fuel pump ready to go is easy to do if your driving far all of the time. It's what I do.


My truck starts good -5 to 40 degrees....


It's over 40 degrees it don't like to start on straight diesel.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Depends on how you set the vehicle up. Having redundant fuel pump ready to go is easy to do if your driving far all of the time. It's what I do.


My truck starts good -5 to 40 degrees....


It's over 40 degrees it don't like to start on straight diesel.

Most my diesel experance comes from semis...

.....and ill tell ya this ol ISX isnt happy fireing if its below 15 degrees lol.

 

[bobbywalter]

My qsx 15 is great with 5w 40 rotella.



Below 15 and I run the espar on a timer if I am doing day work.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

My qsx 15 is great with 5w 40 rotella.



Below 15 and I run the espar on a timer if I am doing day work.

Last year when it got down in the -30s we had shit gellin up goin down the road.

Not that thats the engines fault, but still.

I just prefer gas for my everyday vehicles.

 

[RonD]

What are you guys, ex-NASA engineers

Redundant systems???

Murphy's law, whatever can go wrong will go wrong
Addendum, and at the worst possible moment

So carrying spare parts just means that part will NOT break, BECAUSE you have a replacement, so really a waste of money and space

A spare tire is as far as I go, and only because its too much trouble to lower it down and take it out, and then I would have to find a place to store it, lol

I was born in the US of A, and "planning" is Communism, plain and simple, charging ahead without a plan is the American way, doesn't always work out the best, but I'll be darned if I will become a Commie over a "possible" bad Coil

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

My Ranger fuel pump is on the frame so it easy to change. Two bolts, two hose clamps and a wire.

EPA screwed up diesel pickups just when they started getting interesting.

I would love a A-C 190XT Series III diesel tractor... but the horse on the snow blade will always have a coil.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

What are you guys, ex-NASA engineers

Redundant systems???

Murphy's law, whatever can go wrong will go wrong
Addendum, and at the worst possible moment

So carrying spare parts just means that part will NOT break, BECAUSE you have a replacement

Truth.

After I bought an extra coil and the stupid socket I have yet to have one go bad.

And it was worth it.