The cost of Chinese parts going up..

[Jim Oaks]

Ever wondered where some of your offroad parts are made? I got this email from 4Wheel Parts:

As you are aware, the U.S. Government has imposed Round 2 of tariffs on goods that originated in China and then shipped to the United States. On May 8th , the U.S. announced that it raised those tariffs from 10% to 25%, effective Friday, May 10. An average incremental 15% tariff is now being imposed on a specific set of goods that arrive in the United States. Several items from the brands listed below are on that list. Next Week we will issue official new Jobbers and MAP prices, that will go into effect June 1st , 2019.

G/2, Pro Comp, Lrg, Smittybilt, Poison Spyder, Trail Master

While we continue to implement cost saving measures that enable you to purchase our items at a competitive cost, we will not be able to absorb the full impact of this tariff. As a result the full disclosure on the impacted items will be announced in the coming weeks. At the time you receive notification of the cost change, you will also receive additional information regarding Jobber and MAP prices as well.

We thank you for your business with Transamerican Auto Parts and the confidence you have in our Brands during this disruptive time.

 

[Uncle Gump]

That is the tip of the ice burg... pretty much everything we consume on a daily basis will see a 15 to 20% jump.

I read an article awhile back that stated well over 90% of the shoes/boots we wear are imported from China. We don't make anything here anymore.

Will it fix anything? Who knows... but what I do know is the cost of living is going up....

 

[Dirtman]

Dont worry, china is paying the tariffs not us.


Oh... wait...

 

[Ranger850]

I am not a Trump supporter, at all, but I see the point. He is trying to get things built in America. The alternative to paying the 15-20% increase on Chinese goods is paying 15-20% more for American products. Over time and inflation the 15-20% will level out to the cost of living. Then you have well built, American products are on the shelf, and a booming economy because Americans have jobs at the steel plant that re-opens, and the Assembly plants that re-opens. I used to work on an assembly line at UniMac, an assembly plant that built Industrial Washing Machines. My father ran the WhareHouse. He was so proud of himself when he found cheaper steel in China. He figured he could save the company some $$. He did. They loved him for it. So much that they replaced him with a much younger person at much less pay. Slowly over the next 5-8 years they outsourced more and more stuff. Eliminating jobs along the way. After several larger companies bought UniMac, changed the name to Alliance, by Raytheon, (yes, the missile company) and eventually shut the plant down, because they could make them cheaper in China and import them to America, cheaper than they could by doing it here IN America. So while we are whining about tariffs, we should be looking for quality American built products that do not have a "Tarriff". IMHO of course.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I am sure the prices will come down as soon as they get things worked out like the fuel surcharges a few years ago when fuel went nuts... never let a crisis go to waste.

 

[Ranger850]

^^^^LOL^^^^prices coming down. wooo! hooo!, Fun-E , you know what's NOT gonna happen. Prices NEVER come down, we just get used to paying a lot. The gas crisis was the same way. Raise the price from $2.50 a gallon to $5, then lower it in small increments to $3.50 and we think "oh look gas is cheap now, I should get it while its cheap", even though it is actually more expensive.... Trickery.

 

[Dirtman]

Wouldn't it make more sense to raise the price of goods we export to China so they have to pay the extra cost instead of raising the price of imported goods that we have to pay for?

The whole point is to punish china but the tariffs dont even effect them because they dont pay for it.

 

[Ranger850]

Wouldn't it make more sense to raise the price of goods we export to China so they have to pay the extra cost instead of raising the price of imported goods that we have to pay for?

Out of Curiosity, What DO WE export to China? beside people on the black market. Damn sure ain't corn. or steel, or fidget spinners.

 

[Uncle Gump]

Corn and steel...

 

[Dirtman]

Tons of farm goods (soy, corn, cotton), scrap metal (that they sell back to us), cars, aircraft, etc etc....

 

[Ranger850]

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[85_Ranger4x4]

^^^^LOL^^^^prices coming down. wooo! hooo!, Fun-E , you know what's NOT gonna happen. Prices NEVER come down, we just get used to paying a lot. The gas crisis was the same way. Raise the price from $2.50 a gallon to $5, then lower it in small increments to $3.50 and we think "oh look gas is cheap now, I should get it while its cheap", even though it is actually more expensive.... Trickery.

Gas prices aside everybody was upping their shipping fees when fuel went up. Fuel went down and we still have the surcharge. We used to order oil at work and they delivered it for free. Now we can order $1500 worth of oil and they still charge $20 to deliver it... stuff like that.

Tons of farm goods (soy, corn, cotton), scrap metal (that they sell back to us), cars, aircraft, etc etc....

+1

I think they are still selling some corn, I have heard we are selling rice now. Soybeans are not selling so much right now. Cheap junk from China is one thing, farmers are kind of taking a beating on grain prices because it isn't going to China as much anymore because of this.

Of course corn prices have been in the crapper for years so a lot of guys double cropped soybeans (planted them back to back instead of rotating to corn like "normal") and we had the largest soybean crop ever last year... which probably didn't help either.

But if we get more stuff like this I am all for it:

Stanley Black & Decker Announces Opening of New CRAFTSMAN Plant in Fort Worth, Texas

Stanley Black & Decker (NYSE: SWK) today announced it will expand its U.S. manufacturing footprint with a new CRAFTSMAN manufacturing plant in Fort Worth, TX. The groundbreaking for the 425,000-square-foot facility will take place in summer 2019, and the plant is expected to be completed in late...

www.stanleyblackanddecker.com

 

[pjtoledo]

10% to 25% increase on goods from China???

not a problem for me, I'll just leave 10% to 25% sitting on the shelf.

 

[Bird76Mojo]

This is the thing that 90% of the (Trump supporting) American population doesn't understand. Tariffs amount to nothing more than a sneaky way to raise taxes on American citizens. WE pay the cost difference. OUR cost of living goes up. WE have less money in our pockets.

Will it actually cause American manufacturing to return in any meaningful way? That still remains to be seen, at least on a large scale.. A few steel plants reopening or one Alcoa aluminum plant reopening doesn't amount to much..

We're still losing some major manufacturing names. GE is one of the latest that is getting completely out of the manufacturing game. They've realized the high costs of building things in America, have outsourced most of the manufacturing to China, and are closing and selling off plants as fast as they can. They're now focusing more on finance, as it involves far less risk for them then manufacturing does, and it makes them much more money.

 

[Bracket racer]

I am not a Trump supporter, at all, but I see the point. He is trying to get things built in America. The alternative to paying the 15-20% increase on Chinese goods is paying 15-20% more for American products. Over time and inflation the 15-20% will level out to the cost of living. Then you have well built, American products are on the shelf, and a booming economy because Americans have jobs at the steel plant that re-opens, and the Assembly plants that re-opens. I used to work on an assembly line at UniMac, an assembly plant that built Industrial Washing Machines. My father ran the WhareHouse. He was so proud of himself when he found cheaper steel in China. He figured he could save the company some $$. He did. They loved him for it. So much that they replaced him with a much younger person at much less pay. Slowly over the next 5-8 years they outsourced more and more stuff. Eliminating jobs along the way. After several larger companies bought UniMac, changed the name to Alliance, by Raytheon, (yes, the missile company) and eventually shut the plant down, because they could make them cheaper in China and import them to America, cheaper than they could by doing it here IN America. So while we are whining about tariffs, we should be looking for quality American built products that do not have a "Tarriff". IMHO of course.

Everyone should read and comprehend this post.
Yes stuff is more expensive, you're paying to bring manufacturing back after pissing it away. The end result will be stuff built in the us again. China was nothing until the imf got involved to help them "become a first world country" but it was at the expense of the rich us.