Im Back!! and motivated

[84projectFORD]

Whats up guys! been a long time since i got back on here and made any sort of progress lol. Been busy doin stuff to my diesel makin it faster, damn stuff is like doin cocain just more expensive! I also finally moved back down to phoenix and got a much better payin job to pay for my damn exspensive hobbies :yahoo:. This also makes me about 10 min away from the ranger instead of 200 miles away so things should move a bit faster. oh and alden, i still got your axle and gears incase your were wonderin, should have some time comin up to put those in

figured id move my suspension progress here but for those who wanna see the begining here is a link back http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21854&highlight=project+prerunner

well down to what ive got goin on. I got all the heims for my beams and swing set steering heims, but waitin on the chromoly tie rods form dave so i can finally get the front end together. then i jsut gotta find a decent fuel cell so i can start makin the cage. Ill be ordering RadFlow tripple bypasses form dave as well for the rear and then i just have to rebuild the 9". Took me long enough to get back into her but should start movin along

1 1/4" heims on the left and 7/8" heims on the right. these bad boys shouldnt break :D

[RangerRocker]

WELCOME BACK!!! Its been way to long. Those things better not break, they are huge! I stock those things at work, they are massive! What gears are you going with in the 9"? Cant wait to see the progress.

[spdcrazy]

glad to see you back james! fun times are too come!

joe is seemingly more and more busy, might end up towing my truck to your place if your good for it. need to get the 8.8 setup, locker installed, 64's worked in. and 4.oh swappped in..


just let me know a date and what kinda beer ya drink!

[Quasi242]

Welcome back. Looking forward to the completion of your build.

[84projectFORD]

WELCOME BACK!!! Its been way to long. Those things better not break, they are huge! I stock those things at work, they are massive! What gears are you going with in the 9"? Cant wait to see the progress.

id like to run something close to a 6:1 but im thinkin the closest thing ill find used is 5.30:1 or 5.53.:1

glad to see you back james! fun times are too come!

joe is seemingly more and more busy, might end up towing my truck to your place if your good for it. need to get the 8.8 setup, locker installed, 64's worked in. and 4.oh swappped in..


just let me know a date and what kinda beer ya drink!

haha if it were my place that would be fine with me but its my dads and i dont think he'd want that jsut sittin there lol. why cant you do it in your garage? puttin the locker in is piece of cake and everything esle is relitivly easy. your 4.0 is pretty much plug and play unlike mine lol

Welcome back. Looking forward to the completion of your build.

thanks quasi. i see yours has come along nicely!

[fx2prerunner]

congrats on the new job, good to see you back! now start building lol

[odie1969]

O man I was just thinking I needed to call you and see when you wanted me to come pick up my crap. Do you still have the 44 beams laying around. I have been thinking of taking them down to havasu(sp) and get them c&t while i was at the lake.
Also we need to take your dads toy out the trailer and hit Glamis see what that little chevy will put out.
O ya Tittes and beer racing is back bitches :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[spdcrazy]

locker i could prob do in my garage, but i need to red do the body mount so i can run the 64in chebby's. and that takes a welder and more skillz than i think i possess. not to mention the 8.8 brackets that i need to change, and pinion angle i need to set.

it wont be sitting for long. i want to do it in stages. so if your down, i'll come over this week or weekend and whip that rear end in shape?!?!?! joe seems to be more and more busy.

4.0 i'll prob do myself in the garage with some phone calls to you

[Boggin]

i missed your truck. she is a big inspiration. welcome back

[84projectFORD]

congrats on the new job, good to see you back! now start building lol

haha thanks fx, Ill be all over her when my teir ods finally show up :icon_bounceblue:

O man I was just thinking I needed to call you and see when you wanted me to come pick up my crap. Do you still have the 44 beams laying around. I have been thinking of taking them down to havasu(sp) and get them c&t while i was at the lake.
Also we need to take your dads toy out the trailer and hit Glamis see what that little chevy will put out.
O ya Tittes and beer racing is back bitches :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

Sill got the beams, never got rid of anything cause i knew you wanted it :D. Haha yeah but its a bit hot out there now plus i dont want you to piss your pants when the big 427 kicks in at 80 and starts pullin a wheelie :icon_rofl:.

locker i could prob do in my garage, but i need to red do the body mount so i can run the 64in chebby's. and that takes a welder and more skillz than i think i possess. not to mention the 8.8 brackets that i need to change, and pinion angle i need to set.

it wont be sitting for long. i want to do it in stages. so if your down, i'll come over this week or weekend and whip that rear end in shape?!?!?! joe seems to be more and more busy.

4.0 i'll prob do myself in the garage with some phone calls to you

i cant promise anything as i gotta build a cage and doors for my younger bros RZR S, do some finishing touches on my RZR cage and get this ranger mobile again. gunna be a few weekends before free time comes up

i missed your truck. she is a big inspiration. welcome back

Thanks boggin, i really missed bein able to post stuff up on here about the progress with the truck! i got some new plans for some things i wanna change on the ranger so ya'll will see very soon!!!

[spdcrazy]

no worries man. austin is gonna weld everything up on sat. i figure if joe is to busy, and so are you. then F it. i'll just do it myself! haha

good luck with the RZR. and i'm curious to see what the changes to the ranger will be!

if ya ever wanna sell those front fenders, let me know!

[dave@threat]

Now you need to sell your 64" kit to some leaf loving tree hugger and link it with one of my 3 or 4-link kits. Did you know they cost less then those stupid tree inspired thingys you have?:D

[84projectFORD]

Now you need to sell your 64" kit to some leaf loving tree hugger and link it with one of my 3 or 4-link kits. Did you know they cost less then those stupid tree inspired thingys you have?:D

:icon_rofl::icon_rofl: haha i agree but i aint got the 3k for the radflows i want. hell i still gotta get those bypasses for the rear from you! lol. Trust me though, your link kit is at the top of the list for "must do upgrades" :D along with back halfing the truck.

BTW dave, know any good driveline shops i can get a d-shaft for my truck from that can pu ta M50D yoke on the front and u-joint setup for the 9" rear?

[84projectFORD]

damn it! steering rod didnt show up today so i cant really start doin the front end as it has my 1 1/4 misalignment spacers :bawling::bawling:. i could technically pull it apart but it will be in the detach and the papa wont like that his motorhome has to sit outside while im waitin for parts next week lol. oh well, hurry up and wait i guess!:icon_bounceblue:

[odie1969]

Hey talking about your dads toys, Are you guys racing in the utv series like out at grinding stone and Firebird? Have a friend that keep trying to get me out there to watch a few races.

[84projectFORD]

Hey talking about your dads toys, Are you guys racing in the utv series like out at grinding stone and Firebird? Have a friend that keep trying to get me out there to watch a few races.

nope, sold the rhino about three months ago and i wouldnt wanna race that thing again anyhow. my buddy likes doin some of that in his rzr and occasionally we make it out there to race. i may race my new rzr in one but dunno yet. gotta know if mine will be legal

[doyouquaxu]

so if youre on a ranger website, why is your avatar a pic of a chevy haha


had to ask, it was bugging me for a while.

[RangerRocker]

its his daily driver. haha, he is building an older ranger as a race truck. He was up at NAU for a year, so the ranger was put on hold.

[84projectFORD]

so if youre on a ranger website, why is your avatar a pic of a chevy haha


had to ask, it was bugging me for a while.

haha its cause she is my pride and joy. im a chevy guy at heart but even i know that in a midsize, you cant beat the price of building a ranger into a full race truck. Plus it makes me kinda stand out in this crowd of ranger owners :D

its his daily driver. haha, he is building an older ranger as a race truck. He was up at NAU for a year, so the ranger was put on hold.

close! i am building a full race desert ranger with the old school style look and have learned alot through this site on the rangers in general. I was in college for 4 years at NAU and i bought the ranger the last year i was in school. then one month into school i brought it down to pheoinx (200 miles away) to start buildin it. I wound up stayin in flagstaff another year after i graduated due to no jobs in phoenix but two months ago i landed this one and now im ten min away from the ranger and have more cash to spend on her :icon_bounceblue:. i t was all i could do while i was in flag to keep the bills paid with the job i had and the ranger almost got sold twice but i held onto her. So now she will finally start moving along again!

[84projectFORD]

Yay! all the steering parts and my shackle bushings are in! One thing i really like that dave does is he uses the 7/8 heim, in doin this with the size tie rods he uses you tap threads directly into the chomoly tie rods instead of welding in a bung and having to use a smaller hiem like a 3/4. Hopefully if extermination of the termites at the building i work at doesnt take all weekend ill have time to tear into the ranger! :yahoo:

[odie1969]

Hey So when do you want to start working on this bad boy?

[84projectFORD]

possibly sunday, depends on how long it takes to drill and spray the building for termites. if not, the three day weekend is lookin real good :D

[odie1969]

I would say I would come by and help but I have to pack and get ready for serbia on monday morning. But I will be back in town the following week so I should be able to help you then.

[84projectFORD]

sweet bud! sounds good to me!

[84projectFORD]

Uh oh, the freakin front end fell off! hate it when that happens

now its there..........
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/frontendteardown.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/beginingoffrontendteardown.jpg

now its gone :icon_confused::D
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/nofrontend.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/nofrontend2.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/oldfrontendparts.jpg

and the new beams that will be going on tomorrow! (not shown are the d44 knuckles and heims :icon_hornsup:)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/newforntendparts.jpg

[fx2prerunner]

awsome, cant wait to finally see those beams installed

[dave@threat]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/family%20pics/nofrontend2-1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3964.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3967.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3965.jpg

Awesome!! Just a reminder for you on trimming the engine crossmember for clearence for the passenger side beam. Trim it all off like in the pics and you will be good.

[prerunin554]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/family%20pics/nofrontend2-1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3964.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3967.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t256/87-RANGER/IMG_3965.jpg

Awesome!! Just a reminder for you on trimming the engine crossmember for clearence for the passenger side beam. Trim it all off like in the pics and you will be good.

Dave or anyone else who has done this:

Have you experienced any massive amounts of noise from the engine crossmember after trimming it? I did it on mine and you can hear the truck from a mile away(creeking). I am going to weld the crossmember and hope that solves the noise, but has it ever happened before or is my truck "special"?

edit: i am running unequal length beams so my pivots are still inside of the crossmember

[84projectFORD]

awsome, cant wait to finally see those beams installed

haha well njust scroll down a bit from here and you will see them on! :D


Awesome!! Just a reminder for you on trimming the engine crossmember for clearence for the passenger side beam. Trim it all off like in the pics and you will be good.

Yes sir! that was the first thing i did this mornin. worked out perfect first time through too!

Dave or anyone else who has done this:

Have you experienced any massive amounts of noise from the engine crossmember after trimming it? I did it on mine and you can hear the truck from a mile away(creeking). I am going to weld the crossmember and hope that solves the noise, but has it ever happened before or is my truck "special"?

edit: i am running unequal length beams so my pivots are still inside of the crossmember

This is the first ive ever heard of something like this. why did you trim it to begin with?




Well here are the beams/ radius arms and brackets all on the truck. i also busted the d44 knuckles off the old d44 beams so they will be ready to be put on the truck (not in any pics for today). I still need to get the steering all together but am waitin on a stock pitman arm from a fellow member. I also need to pick up a few more bolts and washers to get everything put back together (missing some bolts for the radus arm brackets and need bolts for the radius-to-beam connection) but wont be able to do that till tuesday since copperstate will be closed tomorrow.

One thing i did notice when settin up the radius arm brackets though dave. was that when i set the passenger side beam to 1/4-3/8" away from the driver side beam bracket bolt, then measured from the body mount rivet to the center radius-to-beam connecting bolt to set up the the driver side. The driver side had to be pulled back so far that the driver side beam would hit the bolt for the passenger side beam bolt on the beam to achieve the same measurement for the passenger side. So i jsut moved it a 1/2" forward to clear the bolt. Shouldnt hurt anything should it? also, without moving it forward, my wheel base on the driver side was 114" and the passenger was 115".


pics
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture013.jpg
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[prerunin554]

This is the first ive ever heard of something like this. why did you trim it to begin with?


when i built it I pushed the beams forward 1.5 inches, and trimmed it to clear

[spdcrazy]

looking good james... keep it up!

[dave@threat]

haha well njust scroll down a bit from here and you will see them on! :D



Yes sir! that was the first thing i did this mornin. worked out perfect first time through too!



This is the first ive ever heard of something like this. why did you trim it to begin with?




Well here are the beams/ radius arms and brackets all on the truck. i also busted the d44 knuckles off the old d44 beams so they will be ready to be put on the truck (not in any pics for today). I still need to get the steering all together but am waitin on a stock pitman arm from a fellow member. I also need to pick up a few more bolts and washers to get everything put back together (missing some bolts for the radus arm brackets and need bolts for the radius-to-beam connection) but wont be able to do that till tuesday since copperstate will be closed tomorrow.

One thing i did notice when settin up the radius arm brackets though dave. was that when i set the passenger side beam to 1/4-3/8" away from the driver side beam bracket bolt, then measured from the body mount rivet to the center radius-to-beam connecting bolt to set up the the driver side. The driver side had to be pulled back so far that the driver side beam would hit the bolt for the passenger side beam bolt on the beam to achieve the same measurement for the passenger side. So i jsut moved it a 1/2" forward to clear the bolt. Shouldnt hurt anything should it? also, without moving it forward, my wheel base on the driver side was 114" and the passenger was 115".


pics
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture013.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture012.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture011.jpg


Sounds like you just have a case of common Ford Frame rack attack.. It will be fine how you have but if you want you can double check the measurments. Set the beams so there is 8" between the bottom of the frame and the top of the beam. Thats going to be your ruff estimated ride hieght. Then measure from the corner of the body mount to the center of the "alignment cam holes" to see what you come up with. Its looking good so far!!

[84projectFORD]

Sounds like you just have a case of common Ford Frame rack attack.. It will be fine how you have but if you want you can double check the measurments. Set the beams so there is 8" between the bottom of the frame and the top of the beam. Thats going to be your ruff estimated ride hieght. Then measure from the corner of the body mount to the center of the "alignment cam holes" to see what you come up with. Its looking good so far!!

oh i got ya. Yeah thats how i measured it and to set it exactly the same i would have to put the driver side beam into the passengerside beam bolt. Ill probably set it another 1/2" forward (1" all together more than the passenger side) so it clears everthing all the way till it hits valley of the engine cross member.

No work done today, buddy got his off shore boat all fixed up so we had some fun on the lake. Ill be goin over to the shop tomorrow night to get the knuckles on and start on the steering.

[84projectFORD]

Did a little bit of stuff today. Mocked the fender up, put the kuckle, bearings, and tire on to see how it would sit at full bump and ride height. Fenders definitly aint wide enough but the tires dont rub! lol Taking the rotors and knuckles down tomorrow to get sand blasted so i can paint them. Also buying new ball joints for the kuckles, new bearings for the driver side, new calipers and pad, gettin all teh grade 8 bolts to finish the steering and radius arm brackets, and some other little odds and ends to finish the front end completely. Then its onto cage! :D:D


sitting at ride height
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at full bumpstop
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture018.jpg
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[RaceRanger97]

looks way good..that threat kit is beautiful

[84projectFORD]

looks way good..that threat kit is beautiful

I know, i love just starin at it in the garage. The bad part is my GF is wondering why i dont stare at her the same way i stare at the kit :dunno::D. BTW one of these days i need to call ya and get some stuff ordered up for the 9"

[spdcrazy]

ya know they make wider fenders that those 3in. maybe you should just donate those to me and grab a 6in set!!!
:icon_thumby:


good work man! good freaking work

[84projectFORD]

haha thanks rob. Those are 4" wide fenders so even with a 6" i still wouldnt be able to cover the tire lol. Do they make a 6" in the old school style? i will not update my glass to a newer body style ranger as im goin old school body with new school under it.

Oh if any one knows of anybody sellin bed sides for i think 92 or older long bed ranger let me know. gunna need some to mock up when the cage starts

[spdcrazy]

haha thanks rob. Those are 4" wide fenders so even with a 6" i still wouldnt be able to cover the tire lol. Do they make a 6" in the old school style? i will not update my glass to a newer body style ranger as im goin old school body with new school under it.

Oh if any one knows of anybody sellin bed sides for i think 92 or older long bed ranger let me know. gunna need some to mock up when the cage starts

i do believe so!

and i like your thoughts with the old skool body and new skool suspension. hence why i drive a first gen!

[dave@threat]

Its looking good! I do know a guy that makes a nice wide old school fender if you are interested. Also if you can try to find someone to trade you wheels. Look for a 15x7".

[84projectFORD]

Its looking good! I do know a guy that makes a nice wide old school fender if you are interested. Also if you can try to find someone to trade you wheels. Look for a 15x7".

hmm definitly! specially if he can do the rears as well cause im sure ill be loosing glass while im out racing. Well the ones on there are 15x8 with a 4.5" back spacing. i think at most ill only be sucking the tire in another 1-2"s which really isnt worth it to me, specially for as expensive as beadlocks can be.

[84projectFORD]

Well got the rotors, hubs, knuckles dropped off at the sandblaster. Have all the bolts needed to finish everything up front, buddy at fastenAll hooked me up royal. New calipers, bearings, seals, ball joints, pads and caliper hardware are all in at NAPA, jsut need to get them tomorrow and my stock pitman arm came in today. SHould have her all together this weekend other than puttin the coilovers in, all depends on what time i have to do it

[84projectFORD]

Shes finally startin to look like a racer! got the knuckles back and painted, rotors/hubs painted, put the new ball joints in the knuckles (gotta love harbor freight presses), put now wheel bearings and races in as well as new wheel bearing seals, all the beams and bracekts and tighten up into their perminate spot, and i alos made a cap for the back of the d44 spindle to keep dirt out. Just need to find out how the machined caps Dave was makin came out :D for where the manual hubs use to be. Here are some pics.

spindles with old ball joints after sandblasting and paint
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture027.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture026.jpg

spindles with new ball joints ( i love getting cost on parts at napa :D)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture024.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture025.jpg

cap i made with a washer and welded up the hole. put RTV under the washer as well as all around the out side after i tacked it on. yes its only tacked so if jsut for some god givin reason i need to take it off i can
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture022.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture023.jpg

damn this thing is lookin cool! i just cant contain myself :icon_bounceblue: :yahoo:.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture021.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture020.jpg

Only issue i may have is she is 85 1/4" wide at ride height in the front. Racing specs say no more than 85"s so i may have to add some preload before tech to pass then take it back out :icon_thumby:.

Tomorrow is install of the swingset steering and add a bar to hold her up at ride height till i start the engine cage and can mount the coilovers. I honestly cant wait to start bendin some tube for this thing!!!

[dave@threat]

Shes finally startin to look like a racer! got the knuckles back and painted, rotors/hubs painted, put the new ball joints in the knuckles (gotta love harbor freight presses), put now wheel bearings and races in as well as new wheel bearing seals, all the beams and bracekts and tighten up into their perminate spot, and i alos made a cap for the back of the d44 spindle to keep dirt out. Just need to find out how the machined caps Dave was makin came out :D for where the manual hubs use to be. Here are some pics.

spindles with old ball joints after sandblasting and paint
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture027.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture026.jpg

spindles with new ball joints ( i love getting cost on parts at napa :D)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture024.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture025.jpg

cap i made with a washer and welded up the hole. put RTV under the washer as well as all around the out side after i tacked it on. yes its only tacked so if jsut for some god givin reason i need to take it off i can
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture022.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture023.jpg

damn this thing is lookin cool! i just cant contain myself :icon_bounceblue: :yahoo:.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture021.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture020.jpg

Only issue i may have is she is 85 1/4" wide at ride height in the front. Racing specs say no more than 85"s so i may have to add some preload before tech to pass then take it back out :icon_thumby:.

Tomorrow is install of the swingset steering and add a bar to hold her up at ride height till i start the engine cage and can mount the coilovers. I honestly cant wait to start bendin some tube for this thing!!!


Order 2 thin jam nuts for the beams and your good to go.

[84projectFORD]

Order 2 thin jam nuts for the beams and your good to go.

Well ill be callin ya tomorrow then! plus i wanted to see how far you had got with those billet caps for the d35/d44 hubs :icon_hornsup:.



Well shes back on all 4s! got most of the steering hooked up but found out the piman arm i had gotten from a fellow member is the worng one for my truck. oh well, ill have to pick up another here soon. Other than that i got everything else hooked up and made a a couple peices of tube to hold her up till i can get the coilovers in.

couple questions to those with the d44 kuckles and dave. How did you go about gettin a bolt to fit the steering knuckle bolt hole? the 1/2 bolt that fits in the misalignment spacer is too small to take up the slack in kuckle. SHould i jsut weld up the hole and redrill it? or is there something else im jsut not thinkin of. Also dave, (im sure ill ask you this tomorrow) but when i jack the driverside beam up the tie rod for the steering will hit the swinger for the passenger side tie rod. Ive tried adjusting all the bars and can get it to miss if the wheels are straight but if i try to turn hit hits really bad. Something not setup right?? pics are below if anyone has any ideas. Either way, front end is pretty much finished and now its cage time!! Man i love the way this thing is lookin. just cant get over the old school look with new school underneithe :icon_welder:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/james450r/Picture038.jpg
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[dave@threat]

You need to flip the driverside steering bracket 180* so the bracket "Taperes" are pointing to the rear of the truck. Once you flip it you will use all 3 steering box bolts. That will give you the clearence you need. For the pitman arm you need a stock one and for the pitman arm and spindles you will need to drill out the spindles and pitman arm. You have 8 sets of 3/4" to 1/2" spacers right? You will need to drill out the pitman arm and spindles to 3/4" then weld in a 3/4" to 1/2" sleave then double sheer.... Also the tie-rod with more bend goes to the driverside spindle just incase you mixed them up and both bends face forward.

[odie1969]

F-ing sweet it is looking awesome, I think I will be able to come out and help you sunday. I kinda want a closer look at you rad arms and see how you mounted them. Still thinking of doing my d44 swap into my 87.

[84projectFORD]

You need to flip the driverside steering bracket 180* so the bracket "Taperes" are pointing to the rear of the truck. Once you flip it you will use all 3 steering box bolts. That will give you the clearence you need. For the pitman arm you need a stock one and for the pitman arm and spindles you will need to drill out the spindles and pitman arm. You have 8 sets of 3/4" to 1/2" spacers right? You will need to drill out the pitman arm and spindles to 3/4" then weld in a 3/4" to 1/2" sleave then double sheer.... Also the tie-rod with more bend goes to the driverside spindle just incase you mixed them up and both bends face forward.

well that makes more sense as far as the steering bracket. Yeah the stock one i got from teh member here is the wrong size splines. The one that came with my truck is a drop pitman arm for the lift that was on it so i gotta find a stock replacement now. Yes i have 8 sets of 3/4-1/2" misalignment spacers. I was kinda figurin i would have to drill them out. DO you have any sleaves or a place i can pick them up? if i have to, i have a friend that could tune down some tube on a lathe to make a couple sleaves. Yeah, they are still marked from when you sent them out. the one with the most bend is on the driverside.

F-ing sweet it is looking awesome, I think I will be able to come out and help you sunday. I kinda want a closer look at you rad arms and see how you mounted them. Still thinking of doing my d44 swap into my 87.

haha thanks alden! the mounting bracket is pretty simple for the rad arms. Im not sure if ill be workin on the ranger this upcomin weekend. i really want to but the GF has been left out the last two weekends so i need to spend some time with her. Still have your beams, axle and gears :D

[dave@threat]

All you need is some 3/4" 120 tubing then cut it down to size. If you want you can just drill them out to 5/8" send me 3 sets of the spacers you have back to me and Ill send you out some 3/4" to 5/8" spacers...that way you dont have to weld in a sleeve.

[84projectFORD]

All you need is some 3/4" 120 tubing then cut it down to size. If you want you can just drill them out to 5/8" send me 3 sets of the spacers you have back to me and Ill send you out some 3/4" to 5/8" spacers...that way you dont have to weld in a sleeve.

ok. ill just use the 3/4 120 tubing. Im sure i could use the sleaves on other things as well down the road :D

[spdcrazy]

looks great!!! be it seems like i say that every time i post on your thread.

next time i'm down in phx we need to meet up so i can get a one on one with your truck!

much pun intended! :icon_rofl:

[84projectFORD]

looks great!!! be it seems like i say that every time i post on your thread.

next time i'm down in phx we need to meet up so i can get a one on one with your truck!

much pun intended! :icon_rofl:

haha well last time you came down you asked where my apartment was then never heard from ya again! what the hell rob. are you drivin the Z back and forth or something else?

[spdcrazy]

haha well last time you came down you asked where my apartment was then never heard from ya again! what the hell rob. are you drivin the Z back and forth or something else?

that was cuz the GF had me locked down that day!

and no. the Z is still in many many pieces. i was in the girlie's geo. next time will be july sometime. heading to tucson to visit her for about a week. will be driving the brumby. and i plan to meet up with some of the tucson and phx TRS members for some wheeling...

[94ranger#22]

Hey i'll be livin in phoenix in 6 weeks! Lets all go mobbin.. Nice build by the way. Wish I would of went with 2wd equal length.

[spdcrazy]

Hey i'll be livin in phoenix in 6 weeks! Lets all go mobbin.. Nice build by the way. Wish I would of went with 2wd equal length.

http://therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=734176#post734176

add your name! lets get things organized!

[84projectFORD]

Hey i'll be livin in phoenix in 6 weeks! Lets all go mobbin.. Nice build by the way. Wish I would of went with 2wd equal length.

Let us know when you make here! though your movin here at the worng time lol. its hotter than hell already. thank god for a A/C garage. and thanks!!

http://therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=734176#post734176

add your name! lets get things organized!

im down! ill either bring the rzr or the sami depending on what we do

[94ranger#22]

Yeah i'm soo glad the a/c in my ranger works great lol. Any idea when your ranger will be done? Are you going to cage it?

[84projectFORD]

yes it will be fully caged front to back. Its gunna be a full out race truck for the desert. ill be racing in the 7200 class. I hoping if funds stay as good as they are in a year but we shall see. if i get some stuff paid off sooner it should be done quicker

[odie1969]

Cool I understand the lock down issue. it seems like for every project I get done for my self I have to due three for her. Her damn kitchen is still in the way of my truck. But when ever you want my stuff out of your A/Ced (green with envy right now) let me know I should be able to roll that way about when ever. And maybe I can score a seat in your ride if everybody goes on a trail ride. Again her damn kitchen is killing my projects.

[84projectFORD]

Cool I understand the lock down issue. it seems like for every project I get done for my self I have to due three for her. Her damn kitchen is still in the way of my truck. But when ever you want my stuff out of your A/Ced (green with envy right now) let me know I should be able to roll that way about when ever. And maybe I can score a seat in your ride if everybody goes on a trail ride. Again her damn kitchen is killing my projects.

haha sounds good. if you can come by next week sometime that would be good. dad is gettin pissy cause i have more stuff layin around than him :rolleyes: lol. Ill let you know for sure about the ride. as long as teh GF dont go your more than welcome to catch a ride with me

[94ranger#22]

Are you going to do all the fab work yourself?

[84projectFORD]

Are you going to do all the fab work yourself?

everything but the beams! (daves got way more expereience there and for the price i couldnt go wrong). Ive been fabbing things for the last 4 years on the side for fun. Ive built a few rzr and rhino cages, bumpers for trucks, roof racks, put long travel on a few trucks, built 2 full desert race rhinos (back before the rzr became king), and a few other things here and there. This is the first full race desert truck ill be building and am not rushing it. gunna make it come out nice and dont wanna skimp corners :icon_welder:

[dave@threat]

Lose that tree pack fast if you plan on racing 7200 son! Sell it off and link that SOB and get it out of the way so you dont have to do any changes later! Keep taking your time and do it right and once :D

[84projectFORD]

Lose that tree pack fast if you plan on racing 7200 son! Sell it off and link that SOB and get it out of the way so you dont have to do any changes later! Keep taking your time and do it right and once :D

haha well ill only be racing 7200 on the few courses i like of theirs as well as when i have the money, BITD rapes the smallers guys on trying to race in their series. So i wont be racing that competitvly. I do wanna race SNORE, MORE, and Whiplash 1450 though and should be alot of fun on the courses ive seen. Im really only wanting to go out there and race the desert, not the guys in my class. If you can beat the desert, generally you beat 3/4 of the field anyhow :icon_rofl:. Hell im building a dedicated ice chest in the truck so when she does break and i cant fix her ill jsut crack open a cold :beer: :D

Oh and the fact i have a 10K budget on this truck and buyin 2 more coilovers and 2 more bypass shocks would put me way over haha

[spdcrazy]

haha well ill only be racing 7200 on the few courses i like of theirs as well as when i have the money, BITD rapes the smallers guys on trying to race in their series. So i wont be racing that competitvly. I do wanna race SNORE, MORE, and Whiplash 1450 though and should be alot of fun on the courses ive seen. Im really only wanting to go out there and race the desert, not the guys in my class. If you can beat the desert, generally you beat 3/4 of the field anyhow :icon_rofl:. Hell im building a dedicated ice chest in the truck so when she does break and i cant fix her ill jsut crack open a cold :beer: :D

Oh and the fact i have a 10K budget on this truck and buyin 2 more coilovers and 2 more bypass shocks would put me way over haha

just make sure they aren't bottles!!!! :beer:

[odie1969]

Hey Im glad to see you finally changed your profile pic. she looking good!!!!

[fx2prerunner]

man I love this truck, that is one awsome front end, cant wait to see whats next.

[84projectFORD]

Hey Im glad to see you finally changed your profile pic. she looking good!!!!

haha i only saw it fit since she finally looks semi like a race truck. you still wanna swing by sat for your stuff?

man I love this truck, that is one awsome front end, cant wait to see whats next.

Haha thanks FX! i love how yours is comin along too! next is some small stuff but the next big part is CAGE :icon_welder:

[odie1969]

I would love to but I have to work, But I was thinking of sunday but now I have to help my buddy move to tuscon sunday. Damn med school. sad thing is he lives right by you and I will have a trailer. but if you want to get together monday night i should be able to get it from you.

[84projectFORD]

I would love to but I have to work, But I was thinking of sunday but now I have to help my buddy move to tuscon sunday. Damn med school. sad thing is he lives right by you and I will have a trailer. but if you want to get together monday night i should be able to get it from you.

works for me! it will make me get off my ass and put the sleeves in the knuckle monday then. maybe double shear it too. really need a damn pitman arm. who would ahve thought a stock 2wd powersteering pitman arm would be so hard to get!!

[fx2prerunner]

cage work is so time consuming, I cant wait to have it done

[84projectFORD]

cage work is so time consuming, I cant wait to have it done

honestly its my favorite part! it jsut seems to make the whole truck come together plus i get to design it how ever id like (with a few stipulations) and gie the truck its unique look. I just think its so cool how you can take a straight peice of pipe, bend it, cope it, and weld it to make your own custom vehicle in a sense. Though it can be pretty time consuming :D

[fx2prerunner]

honestly its my favorite part! it jsut seems to make the whole truck come together plus i get to design it how ever id like (with a few stipulations) and gie the truck its unique look. I just think its so cool how you can take a straight peice of pipe, bend it, cope it, and weld it to make your own custom vehicle in a sense. Though it can be pretty time consuming :D

I agree with you about it being the fun part but it is time consuming and when you have limited cash and limited time it seems to drag on forever, that being said I made some progress on my cage today :)

[spdcrazy]

no luck on a 2wd ranger pitman arm for ya either james. maybe the flagstaff yards, tho they are usually expensive.

god how i want a tube bender. the things i would build!

[94ranger#22]

Lookin good! I'll be in town tuesday

[spdcrazy]

Lookin good! I'll be in town tuesday

wait, do you guys know each other?

stephen, james and i went to college together, till i dropped out but thats another story.

james, thats the guy i'm buying the skyjacker arms from!!!

[84projectFORD]

haha easy rob. no we dont know each other. he is jsut moving out here to phoenix from CA. I kinda figured thats where you were buyin those from. You get that b2 togher for the weekend?

94, will you be out here for good then? or you got some more stuff to move first?

[Boggin]

lookin good man! still lookin for a 2wd pitman arm? i got a 88 2wd ranger that im scrapping after i get the cab off..

[94ranger#22]

Just to find an apartment, or room to rent. will be out there for good in about a month

[spdcrazy]

i'm heading to the garage now, hopefully i'll be 4x4 by the end of the nite. money is getting short after buying those rad arms and skyjacker stuff. but i just need a new u joint, redrill my main leaf to push my axle back a bit, and to re weld my perch's on with the correct measurements. (i screwed up and used the 39in center to center when i need more like 42 due to the different offset f-150 hangers)

i'm trying to be ready for ya! but i'll be without shocks most likely!

[84projectFORD]

lookin good man! still lookin for a 2wd pitman arm? i got a 88 2wd ranger that im scrapping after i get the cab off..

absolutly! ill PM ya and thank you!

Just to find an apartment, or room to rent. will be out there for good in about a month

oh ok. There are a few nice places out here in North phoenix for a good price. the one im in has free internet and cable and is a 920sq ft 2 bed room for $718 a month. with utilities im only payin about 800 a month. hell of a lot cheaper than waht i could find in flagstaff thats for sure. Where you plannin to look at?

i'm heading to the garage now, hopefully i'll be 4x4 by the end of the nite. money is getting short after buying those rad arms and skyjacker stuff. but i just need a new u joint, redrill my main leaf to push my axle back a bit, and to re weld my perch's on with the correct measurements. (i screwed up and used the 39in center to center when i need more like 42 due to the different offset f-150 hangers)

i'm trying to be ready for ya! but i'll be without shocks most likely!

yeah you will be doin this all weekend then :icon_bounceblue: :icon_rofl:. either way call up matt or phil and im sure they will bring ya out. gunna be a good time. Mark (hoppers buddy that races the cummins) is bringin a beater cherokee and hopper and all them are comin out too.

[94ranger#22]

I think more glendale area. I found a room to rent for 350 a month with utilities and garage space lol and the people ride and are into the desert. I need somethin less than 400.

[84projectFORD]

well very nice! that should work out good. let me know when your in town for good and are all settled in. not sure if your the legal drinkin age but we could grab a few beers and/or sodas :D

[spdcrazy]

much beer will be drank this weekend thats for sure!

and no, it will be ready! minus rear shocks but those are just extra anyways!

[94ranger#22]

I can't even buy tobacco products til november lol. I'm still 17 but my parents dont care if i drink. Enough talk back to the build :P

[84projectFORD]

well truck may be on hold for a bit. workin on finishing my brother cage for his rzr and am in the process of building a coilover kit for chevy hd's that will be pretty inexpensive and will only require some welding of some gussets. Waiting to hear back from fox on some shock specs, then i can start mock up. i am also heading up to denver for a friends wedding. So with all that mixed in plus the whiplash race out in snowflake that ill be racing in i may only get a weekend in two months to really work on her. i will post up pretty, new parts that i will be ordering in the mean time though :D

[Boggin]

hey man did you get my pm i sent you? i might still be able to get you that pitman arm if you need it. say a week or two

[odie1969]

Hey when Is the snowflake race? let me know if you need anything Im looking for what ever excuse to get out of the heat.

[84projectFORD]

hey man did you get my pm i sent you? i might still be able to get you that pitman arm if you need it. say a week or two

yeah my bad, ive been all over the place right now. I PMed ya back. that would work, jsut let me know!

Hey when Is the snowflake race? let me know if you need anything Im looking for what ever excuse to get out of the heat.

Its Labor day weekend, Sept 4th. your more than welcome to come up and help pit. just be prepared that it may rain. its rained the last two years we have gone and its a muddy mess but fun as hell to race in

[84projectFORD]

little update. not the ranger but something i gotta get done before i can get back on it, plus i figured since ya'll are into fabbin is throw it up :D. got 3/4 of my brothers rzr cage done that i told him id do for his birthday. just need to bee welded up, do the doors, finish up some rough edges and put a roof on it. after im done with it, i gotta work on my rzr to get it ready for the snow flake race, do some work on my samuri for for our trip to moab in october, then its all hands on the ranger

[spdcrazy]

looking good man. i'm working out all the kinks in my b2. kinda thinking about joining you guys in moab in oct. but it all depends on work and school too. prob flat tow my brumby out if i go

[ford rules]

Trucks looking great. Do you have anymore pics of that steering setup? Do you still use the stock gear box?

[84projectFORD]

Trucks looking great. Do you have anymore pics of that steering setup? Do you still use the stock gear box?

thats really all i have for pic. still uses the stock box and stock pitman arm (if i can ever find one). it basiclly uses swingers to push/pull the other swinger and steer the tires. really simple but is awesome off road as your bumpsteer will be virtually non-exsistant

[ford rules]

Okay thats what i thought was going on there lol thanks.

[ford rules]

How did you set your ride height? i thought i saw it somewhere something like 8" from the beam to the frame? im wondering because i am building my own beam set up.

[84projectFORD]

How did you set your ride height? i thought i saw it somewhere something like 8" from the beam to the frame? im wondering because i am building my own beam set up.

its really where ever you wanna set it. Dave at threat built these beams to be set at 9" from the beam to the frame (which is where ill set it when the shocks are in) but really its how you want the truck to sit or if you want a 2/3 drop and 1/3 up for wheel travel or 50/50 or so forth

[84projectFORD]

well bad news guys...........due to things turnin down hill again and wanting to get out of debt, the ranger will probably be goin up forsale. im gunna absolutly hate having to do it as ive been bustin my ass to not have to do this but its lookin like its gunna have to happen.........

Dave, im sorry i have to do this and i really really appreciate all you have done for me. I wont be out of it forever and actually am preparing for when the day comes and i get another ranger to turn into a race truck (5 or so years down the road).

Im going to try to sell the truck as a whole at first and then if i cant get what i like for it ill part it out so for anyone out there lookin for a perfectly set up truck jsut needing to be finished up, its right here for ya. Ill let you guys know how things turn out but for anyone interested, please send me a PM and ill get back to ya ASAP

[RaceRanger97]

Damn, sorry you have to get rid of her. But I know how it can be when times get rough, ill let people know around here what you got for sale.

[84projectFORD]

Thanks race. Shes is gunna be sold in parts (partin it out). Ill put a list up in the forsale section and id really rather not ship anything but if the price is right, ill figure it out. everything is forsale on her

[odie1969]

O shitty. Wish I could help.

[84projectFORD]

yeah i know alden. Have not had much interest in it, so if things dont start movin, she may not be goin anywhere. May have to find a second job or do side work on cars

[odie1969]

Well let me know, Sorry I cant offer to buy it. that takes money witch I have non of. If I can do anything else for you let me know.

[84projectFORD]

Well let me know, Sorry I cant offer to buy it. that takes money witch I have non of. If I can do anything else for you let me know.

thanks bud. i appreciate it. Im already startin a list for the next truck to build when the time comes. gunna do a few things different so it goes together quicker and a little cheaper. nice thing is i still have all the template for plating the frame and know alot now as to what works with what

[Boggin]

sucks to hear man. what will the next build truck be?

[84projectFORD]

92 and up ford ranger with a 4.0 and m5od in it already, same front end i have now and possibly same rear end setup with 9", boxed frame again, ill be converting the frontend back to the 88-older style front end though (jsut love that old school look lol), Ill probably try to find a truck thats caged already or got a cage thats worth building off to fully cage it but we shall see. lots can change i 5 years. For all i know, desert racing could get shut down by then though i really really hope not

[ford rules]

Wow that really sucks you were making good progress on it to i wish i was closer i would deffinatley buy this thing

[fx2prerunner]

sorry to hear, I sold my truck last week to a guy thats gonna put a solid axle and a T-case in it

[84projectFORD]

Wow that really sucks you were making good progress on it to i wish i was closer i would deffinatley buy this thing

thanks man. i had it all goin the way i wanted too but its time to start thinkin about my future and the playin has to stop on a few things. The ranger is my only project. ive been doin stuff to my 20 duramax, changing things on my suzuki samurai rock crawler, and puttin a little cash into my polaris rzr. Soemthing had to go and since the ranger wasnt near as close to finished as my other projects, it has to go....

sorry to hear, I sold my truck last week to a guy thats gonna put a solid axle and a T-case in it

damn fx, you and i really think too much a like lol

[odie1969]

So I see you have started to strip it out. that sucks. What have you been up to lately?

[rngrracing96]

still have the threat kit? if so im interested. youd have to ship a long ways but im willing to cover that and extra for the trouble haha let me know