Anyone have Verizon FIOS?

[ryan]

If you do, how do you like the speed? Is downtime a problem? What is the installation like? We don't have home phone service currently, and the installation details are confusing.

I have zero experience with a service like it - have only had cable internet for broadband.

We currently have time warner cable/cable internet and they're charging an arm and a leg, and our upload speeds are horrendous. We have the upgraded 15mbs connection, but the upload might as well be dialup

[Psychopete]

If you do, how do you like the speed?

I have the 10/2 package - It is FAST. My last connection was 1.5/786 tho, so 10/2 is a big improvement. I can't vouch for the upload speeds because I don't run a web server or upload much. You running a FTP? I could upload a dummy file to bench mark if you wanted.

Is downtime a problem?

Hardly ever.

What is the installation like?

They installed a box on my basement wall, and ran a cable to the router next to my computer. The router they supplied is wireless and you can configure it as well. The guy who installed it was really out there, did a pretty shitty job of running the cable to my PC, but what else is new.

Pete

[ryan]

not running FTP, but i'd use the speed for gaming.

i also would want to use my wireless router instead of there's and i'm not sure how that goes over

do you have home phone service that they tapped into? i'm sure we've got phone jacks, but who knows where they are

[Psychopete]

do you have home phone service that they tapped into? i'm sure we've got phone jacks, but who knows where they are

In comes in over a fiber line, the box on my wall has a "class 1 lazer" warning on it, this is probably what translates the fiber signal - a friend of mine was telling me that I could build up my own phone system for about $200 and just use VOIP and ditch my land line entirely. Takes some time, but even can get the current phone # routed. Can't remember what the company was called, or what the box I needed to get was though.

Router info:
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14077

Pete

[ryan]

hmmm interesting. i didn't think about the modem issue much - i just assumed it had a standard RJ45 coming off of it if you don't use their modem/router combo

i have one of those fancy schmancy gaming routers from d-link - having to ditch that might be a dealbreaker for me, even though the bandwidth would be key

how expensive was your installation if you dont mind me asking?

[Psychopete]

I am very lucky - costs were picked up as a house warming gift, I never saw the total. I want to say they were in the $200 range though.

Pete

[ryan]

thanks

verizon sent a thing saying it's coming to our neighborhood. we'll see when it actually happens

[Rifleman]

Depending on your local network quality, for $65 a month Comcast Business Class is better. This is from a peak usage time for my area. >>
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531749483.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[ryan]

will they install that in a residential area? i never thought about that

my ping is ridiculously good right now, that's the only thing that makes me want to keep our internet - it tops out at 10 ms, and most of the time it's below that

my UL is right about .5mb/s

[fastpakr]

Depending on your local network quality, for $65 a month Comcast Business Class is better. This is from a peak usage time for my area. >>
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531749483.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm glad it's working that well for you. Do keep in mind, though, that even the $90 a month plan (http://business.comcast.com/internet/plans.aspx) only advertises 30-50% of what you're seeing.

[chillmiller]

yes i do and fios sucks!!!!!!!!


i miss brighthouse high speed

[chillmiller]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/532393796.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Psychopete]

I'll have to run that test when I get home, I wonder how they come up with the figures for some of those... If that's rated in bits per second, I have a hard time believing that a $13/mon DSL connection 1.5mb/s / 785kb/s is faster than a fiber optic line.

I would be real tempted to wireshark the connection and see if there's a bunch of crap spewing from one of your PCs. Sometimes it's not how fast the connection is, it's how many transactions it can handle (which is what you want with gaming, but also kills). My old DSL line would download 112kilo bytes per second topped out, but would drastically drop if I had anything uploading.

A customer came in with a PC with a new type of trojan, it actually logged into his wireless router and funnelled all of the traffic through an IP address out of the united states (to steal info). This would certainly kill speeds... Just some things to look out for, make sure that you're connection is secure and that there isn't anything funny going on. It is also very possible to crack WEP wireless encryption.

Pete

[ryan]

A customer came in with a PC with a new type of trojan, it actually logged into his wireless router and funnelled all of the traffic through an IP address out of the united states (to steal info). This would certainly kill speeds... Just some things to look out for, make sure that you're connection is secure and that there isn't anything funny going on. It is also very possible to crack WEP wireless encryption.

Pete

that was one of the first things that i thought - nothing funny in the router logs, but I'm not exactly sure what to be looking for. The UL still stinks even with the computer turned off and just running my ps3, so I think it's probably the cable itself

[warrior24]

Seems like verizon puts to low of a speed cap for a fiber network. I guess I am just greedy and want faster speeds. Although I don't have FIOS here is my screen shot from cox

http://www.speedtest.net/result/532609380.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[ryan]

here's what mine looks like:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/533011289.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

it totally blows my mind how bad my UL is. I'm fine with 15mb, but less than 1 for the UL is ridiculous

chillmiller: how much bandwidth do you have??

[Psychopete]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/533382319.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I noticed that different servers produced different results, not sure how reliable this test actually is...

Those other connections are doing things, holy crap that is some decent bandwidth (for a home connection :)).

Pete

[chillmiller]

well there 3 switches before a fiber optic line gets in your house and its still runs thro cat5 when in your house and most routers are only rated at 10/100 and most stock cards in pc's are only rated at 10/100

3 switches

from main server to switcher - from switcher to onpole switcher- from OPS to house and thats just to your house then depending on if your running right off the router or thro that then a linksys style switch and running wired or wireless

as you cann see it gets befuddled alot

this is me today not the fastest but livable

http://www.speedtest.net/result/534099323.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[ryan]

what bandwidth packages are you guys using with verizon? i mean, if those are the 15/5 connections and that's the "real" bandwidth you're getting, even if it's off a bit in the test, that seems rough

i dont think i could live with a 92 ms ping.

i think my connection is supposed to be 15/768, which makes zero sense to me. their super high end 30mbs connection limits uploads to 2mbs. the verizon bandwidth caps for similar connections are 5mbs and 15mbs respectively

i'm probably just being anal about it, but i feel like i'm not getting the value i should from a 15 mbs connection. i should probably just call them and try and get their 30mbs connection by threatening to switch

[Psychopete]

what bandwidth packages are you guys using with verizon?

Mines 10/2Mb(it)/s

i think my connection is supposed to be 15/768, which makes zero sense to me. their super high end 30mbs connection limits uploads to 2mbs. the verizon bandwidth caps for similar connections are 5mbs and 15mbs respectively

Seems like they did that to prevent people from pirateing software and other data. I remember there was no upload cap when cable first came out, but they capped ithe upstreams because a ton of people were doing this. My eyes lit up when I seen an old friend of mine uploading files at 300kb(yte)/s back when I was still 56K.

Pete

[chillmiller]

when hard wired i have no problem dl at 900+ kb/s and uploading at 500+ when uhhh dould....loading fully payed for and not pirated ... uhh software ya...