Catalytic Converter Question

Mobtown · Aug 9, 2007

1988 2.9L 4x4 SuperCab

I am beginning the complete replacement of my exhaust system. Most of the flanges are rusted away and there are several leaks up and down the pipe.

Anyway, the stock CC is the two chamber unit seen bellow:

Does anyone know why Ford used a two CC system on this motor?

F150hybred · Aug 9, 2007

Plain and simple. Emissions. Now, I know there's a more elaborate and technical explanation, but if one word can sum it up, why bother?

85_Ranger4x4 · Aug 9, 2007

The cars with single cats have both chambers in one can.

Mobtown · Aug 9, 2007

85_Ranger4x4 said:
The cars with single cats have both chambers in one can.

Excellent, I thought that might be the case.

Next question, Does anyone know of a high-flow, single can replacement for this part?

I have seen some generic CCs that might work, but I wanted to see if anyone has had success with a specific replacement part...

Hahnsb2 · Aug 9, 2007

I used a universal CMX Hi flow cat on mine and had better emissions than my dads rig which is still running 2 stock cats (the rear one was new).

ZMan · Aug 12, 2007

summit racing has em..

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=Ford+Ranger&N=700+4294923429+115+4294838974&NeXID=5&Ntk=KeywordSearch

Natedog · Aug 20, 2007

Hahnsb2 said:
I used a universal CMX Hi flow cat on mine and had better emissions than my dads rig which is still running 2 stock cats (the rear one was new).

This one and where did you get it?

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2009548/p-2009548/N-111+10201+600012669/c-10101

Higher flow than most aftermarket converters
Polished heat shield
Stainless-steel construction

Meets these EPA displacement requirements: Up to 5.9L engine with vehicle test weight of 6,000 lbs. Not legal for sale or use in California-Check local emission laws.

I don't see why it has that last catch phrase... :annoyed:

MAKG · Aug 20, 2007

Because if it isn't legal in California, it isn't legal in about 20 other states as well, and at more local levels elsewhere. It MAY not be legal anywhere (the displacement requirement is very far from the only one), or for some applications. It's especially interesting that it hasn't been EPA approved. That by itself probably makes it illegal.

FYI, all cats have at least two beds in them. The front one is a reducer and the rear one is an oxidizer. You have to put them in that order or the oxidizer doesn't work and you get high HC and NOx. At least, not without a smog pump. You also need the engine in correct closed-loop operation for the cats to work properly. If it's open loop or just wrong, one of the two beds will not be fed with the reactants it needs.

"Universal" cats are a hugh PITA to install on V6 applications. The inlet is not round, and quite a lot of welding jobs, well, suck as a result.

Hahnsb2 · Aug 21, 2007

Yep thats the one Nate. I picked it up at a local auto parts store, was about $50. I would ignore "not legal in CA" part, as long as your truck is in good working order it will pass emissions with no problem, no one will look under your truck and try and find out if the cat you have on it is "legal" or not. And MAKG is right about using a universal cat on RBVs, the previous owner of my rig had cut the flange off the stock cat and then ovaled a piece of 2 1/2" pipe and welded it to the flange and then bolted it up, he used a catco universal cat, which BTW with that setup it was near failing levels at emissions. I ended up accidentaly destroying that cat while in the process of modifying my exhaust, and thats why I got the CMX unit, the emission numbers were many times better with the CMX cat over the catco cat.

Seabiscuit · Sep 4, 2007

I think my truck 2001 is a California version which has three cats.......

Seabiscuit · Sep 4, 2007

Also sucks because I live in Arizona

AllanD · Sep 11, 2007

Anyone who tells you that the stock two chamber cat doesn't
flow is.... well.... either a liar (advertising people?) or an
idiot (anyone who believes the advertizers claims)

I've even compared the two chambered cat to straight pipe and
the engine (2.9) simply runs better with the cat installed

FWIW the ONLY difference between the '88-92 2.9 catalyst
and the 4.0 cat is that the later 4.0 cat uses a different
style rear flange, though SOME 'later '91's and some '92 2.9's
came wiht the donut/flare/spring-bolt flange used on the 4.0.

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Neelybd · Sep 11, 2007

I am glad I live in Oregon, I sent a metal rod through my cat.

krugford · Sep 11, 2007

^ sigh... why do people insist on announcing that they've broken the law on a public forum....

85_Ranger4x4 · Sep 11, 2007

Neelybd said:
I am glad I live in Oregon, I sent a metal rod through my cat.

FWI cats take very little power, far less than the giant expansion chamber you created.

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